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So looking at replacing all of the internal lights in our house with LED bulbs.

I need the e14 (edison) bulbs.

Went to zebbies and the Art of lightning in Durban, seems the going rate for a 4/5watt (350 lumens) is R120 a bulb rated for 25 000-30 000 hours. Both bulbs I was looking at had a 110 degree beam angle, warm white. Bought one to test and it seems quite good. Bought a brand called brilliant.

1) Is this a good price? Came accross this site, a no name bulb for only R30 a bulb on special, must be a catch.

2) Also heard everyone say how you need to replace your outdoor floodlights with LED. I just don't seem to find any led flood lights that can match the lumen to watt ratio of metal halide bulbs. Had a guy at zebbies and builders confirm my suspicions & it would be in there interest to sell me the LED.
 
Unfortunately buying one to test isn't going to give you any indication on how well the room will be lit when replacing all.

The only format LED is a winner is with the spotlight (known as downlight in S.A). I would rather fit spots in the room because they work really well.
 
The_Traveller said:
Unfortunately buying one to test isn't going to give you any indication on how well the room will be lit when replacing all.

The only format LED is a winner is with the spotlight (known as downlight in S.A). I would rather fit spots in the room because they work really well.
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true, my globes are in a bundle of 3 on a bracket, 2 brackets in the room, removed all bulbs except the led in one bracket and the normal bulb in the other. Led looks just as good if not better.
 
builders warehouse had these Ellies GU10 bulbs (cool and warm white) - pack of 5 for R200 (Last year pricing) - went earlier this year it was about R250 for 5. Still decent.

Bulbs are great, surprisingly bright too.
 
naeem said:
builders warehouse had these Ellies GU10 bulbs (cool and warm white) - pack of 5 for R200 (Last year pricing) - went earlier this year it was about R250 for 5. Still decent.

Bulbs are great, surprisingly bright too.
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thanks, will give them a call today. Went into buildersExpress and the only LED bulbs they had were ellies or osram R200 each! Same specs as my R120 ones.
 
Mr Feesh said:
thanks, will give them a call today. Went into buildersExpress and the only LED bulbs they had were ellies or osram R200 each! Same specs as my R120 ones.
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Keep in mind every LED gives off different light. When you say same spec, you comparing chipset,CRI,CCT, driver and angle?
 
Mr Feesh said:
angle, lumens. So i guess similar, not quite the same.
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Trust me, every different chip (Cree,bridgelux,epistar etc.) give off different CCT. They are never similar. Osram costs R200 a pop for a reason, that's why they're a first class brand.
 
Saw in Builders they had these GU10 bad boys -- 4 for R160... but these are cheapest of the cheap.
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They are cool white, only 180 lumens (only 3W) and are only guaranteed for '1 year' -- I'm guessing that means about only 1,500 hours?
What's annoying is that it isn't the 'bulb' that breaks but the 'driver' inside. Those cheap drivers kill the bulb though.

I had a problem finding good E14 replacements a year ago - for those reflector bulbs, sounds like what you're talking about. Tried all kinds of different bulbs (CFL reflectors, halogens etc.) -- the only one the girlfriend would put up with were these ones:
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This was 6+ months ago, from Pick n Pay.
They were R99 each, and in warm white, 250 Lumens (4.5W) and are rated to last 20,000 hours, i.e. they should last 15X longer than those cheap ones.
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If you want dimmable you have to pay more too!

Actually have 4 of the above spare now because we moved house and don't have reflectors anymore! Also have a bunch of useless cheaper bulbs too... welcome to by bag of bulbs that don't give nice light!
E14 bad bulbs.jpg

So -- as with so much in life, you get what you pay for.
Cheap = CHEAP -- and often is a false economy. Unfortunately EXPENSIVE does not mean high quality. It's easy to pay over the odds for something that turns out to not work as you planned or is just the same crap but sold as if it isn't.

You can get E14->GU10 converters, if the bulb you want only comes as GU10. Should be R20 or so...
 
richjdavies said:
Saw in Builders they had these GU10 bad boys -- 4 for R160... but these are cheapest of the cheap.
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They are cool white, only 180 lumens (only 3W) and are only guaranteed for '1 year' -- I'm guessing that means about only 1,500 hours?
What's annoying is that it isn't the 'bulb' that breaks but the 'driver' inside. Those cheap drivers kill the bulb though.
I had a problem finding good E14 replacements a year ago - for those reflector bulbs, sounds like what you're talking about. Tried all kinds of different bulbs (CFL reflectors, halogens etc.) -- the only one the girlfriend would put up with were these ones:
This was 6+ months ago, from Pick n Pay.
They were R99 each, and in warm white, 250 Lumens (4.5W) and are rated to last 20,000 hours, i.e. they should last 15X longer than those cheap ones.
If you want dimmable you have to pay more too!
Actually have 4 of the above spare now because we moved house and don't have reflectors anymore! Also have a bunch of useless cheaper bulbs too... welcome to by bag of bulbs that don't give nice light!
So -- as with so much in life, you get what you pay for.
Cheap = CHEAP -- and often is a false economy. Unfortunately EXPENSIVE does not mean high quality. It's easy to pay over the odds for something that turns out to not work as you planned or is just the same crap but sold as if it isn't.
You can get E14->GU10 converters, if the bulb you want only comes as GU10. Should be R20 or so...
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Thanks for all the info! I won't be going with any of the cheapest ones, but R120 a bulb does seem a bit steep. Bought 4 5watt eurolux ones to replace 4 on a bracket in my kitchen (these are 350 lumens, 25000 hours) way brighter than what I had before, reckon I only need two where i used to have 4 lol ( previous bulbs were 40 watt, 170 lumen, phillips) .

The LED i bought is a warm white, but not sure if its the colour or just because its much brighter but does seem a bit more white and less yellow.

I feel that the 350 lumens is more then enough, maybe even overkill, would be happy to change to a 250 watt led, if it lasted 20 000 hours.

Next question, the eurolux looks more similar to my standard bulbs, but the other brand "brilliant" has a whole lot of smaller leds in it. Whats better? Thought the many little leds are the older technology
 
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Time to revive this thread because I need some of these globes.

Anyone know where I can get these e14 reflector style LED globes?

Ones I don't want:

Anything Eurolux (biggest crap ever, the traditional or halogen globes last about 1 - 3 months on average)
The "Flash" brand that Game used to sell (had multiple of these fail on me way before they were supposed to)
These Philips models (I actually have these and they work great but they light is too focused, need more spread)

Anyone have any luck finding good ones that last? At this point I don't mind spending a bit extra.
 
I have Verbatim bought from Builders. Have had them about 3 years No problems and highly recommended. I have 42 in total so a fair sample size.
 
Game currently has some decent specials on - six Eurolux 6w bulbs for R99 plus these:

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