'White poverty up 95%'

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

If you are white and desperate for work to feed your family - BEE is one of your biggest worries.

Yet I will still rather be a poor white than a poor black in this country as poor whites still enjoy a far greater social support system than any other race. History is repeating itself and a century later we are again seeing a large poor white community.

Also BEE dose not effect unskilled labour, actually many whites have won jobs based on EE quotas being skew at unskilled level. Famous case was 10 yrs ago where 30 Vanderbilpark poor whites took a mine to labour court as their lower ranks where 100% black - the guys won and the mine had to employ more whites at that level.

 

[Baroness]

if you're black and you studied after school, but you don't have the minimum experience required by the job(ie. usually 3 years) you're also kinda screwed, BEE or no BEE

BS.

White people also need to be qualified to get a job. Young white people face much more discrimination in finding a job than other races.

 

[STS]

but not as screwed as a white person in the same position

what is everybody missing here? i got a phone call yesterday with the exact words "our client is looking for an afrikaans speaking white male". it wasn't even that hard a job, they only wanted me to be computer literate and i passed it on to my white male afrikaans speaking friend.

now tell me how is a BLACK BEE candidate benefitting from that conversation? some poor black person has to go back to their shack tonight because a whitey stole a job from him simply because of racial preference. i'm just saying here there are ways to work around it. I DON'TLIKE BEE, I DON'T SUPPORT BEE. read that again

EXTRA: no, i don't support OR like the ANC either

 

[STS]

BS.

White people also need to be qualified to get a job. Young white people face much more discrimination in finding a job than other races.

refer to above post, i can only speak thru the experiences i've had and i've been looking for a job recently. i didn't look very hard for a job and i had 3 offers, and i'm not even intelligent.

now is my comment BS because the candidate is black and all black people get jobs just beacause they're black, or because you think i'm thumb sucking?

P.S: i never said white people didn't have to be qualified

 

[Wasp_21]

Those are questions that the like of the FF+ SHOULD be asking. However it seems they would have us believe that everyone of those 430k-odd white folk are educated and skilled people who are disenfrachised by AA/BEE...

But they are. We (whites) are made out to all be educated people, because we prevented the blacks from getting an education, and that is the reason AA came into use. To cure the unbalance of educated whites in educated positions. draw a few lines of education vs production vs economic growth, and you might find an interesting trend.

 

[Baroness]

refer to above post, i can only speak thru the experiences i've had and i've been looking for a job recently. i didn't look very hard for a job and i had 3 offers, and i'm not even intelligent.

now is my comment BS because the candidate is black and all black people get jobs just beacause they're black, or because you think i'm thumb sucking?

P.S: i never said white people didn't have to be qualified

Sorry dude. You've been turned down one time based on colour, however that does not balance the scale of how many times white young people have to face BEE / AA.

 

[Wasp_21]

what is everybody missing here? i got a phone call yesterday with the exact words "our client is looking for an afrikaans speaking white male". it wasn't even that hard a job, they only wanted me to be computer literate and i passed it on to my white male afrikaans speaking friend.

now tell me how is a BLACK BEE candidate benefitting from that conversation? some poor black person has to go back to their shack tonight because a whitey stole a job from him simply because of racial preference. i'm just saying here there are ways to work around it. I DON'TLIKE BEE, I DON'T SUPPORT BEE. read that again

EXTRA: no, i don't support OR like the ANC either

Indicate the nature of the job? It is allowable to identify key requirements applicable to a particular job. I agree, and have my doubts, that they would specify "white" in your call, but it is acceptable to request afrikaans, as it is to specify english or zulu or any of the other 11 languages. Thus it is also allowed to specify woman or male. Certain jobs have certain requirements. I applied once for a position at DWAF as a project manager. Of all the candidates, i was the only white male. In my second interview, i was told by the panel, although i am the most qualified and most appropriate for the position, they had to employ a black female as part of their AA policy. Now, that i don't agree with.

 

[STS]

Indicate the nature of the job? It is allowable to identify key requirements applicable to a particular job. I agree, and have my doubts, that they would specify "white" in your call, but it is acceptable to request afrikaans, as it is to specify english or zulu or any of the other 11 languages. Thus it is also allowed to specify woman or male. Certain jobs have certain requirements. I applied once for a position at DWAF as a project manager. Of all the candidates, i was the only white male. In my second interview, i was told by the panel, although i am the most qualified and most appropriate for the position, they had to employ a black female as part of their AA policy. Now, that i don't agree with.

she was a lady from a call center, and she did use the word white, i wasn't aware that she couldn't and she may have been unaware too, but i guess that is what the employer asked her. i've heard of it being referred to as "non BEE" which basically means they'd prefer a white person, because when i applied for a non BEE position they turned me down thinking i was an indian. this isn't the case for everywhere, it is just my experience, and now i listen to other people's experiences. it is harder for me to book a license than it has ever been to apply for a job.

i don't agree with it either, but when a business looks to employ someone they don't all of a sudden go "OH NO! BEE! we must pick a black person", they decided before hand ifthey want a BEE candidate or not, and there are ways to work around BEE(apparently) if you donate equipemtn to school, charities, etc. i don't know how true it is, but i've overheard conversations in managers offices.

i've been turned down a lot for jobs. what i as doing wrong was that my CV wasn't descriptive enough and i wasn't excited about jobs before. simply changing my CV got me 2 phone calls a day from recruitment agencies, and most interviews i went to called me back. i nthe end i hada choice to which job i wanted, and it may not be true next week or next month, but it was recently.

 

[CyraxHB]

....that is the reason for their existence, i.e. to look after the white interests and to hell with anybody else.

Replace white with black and you've got the ANC.

 

[Zenbaas]

Replace white with black and you've got the ANC.

The difference is that the ANC don't even do that very well.