Please guys give me a good reason why I should choose ADSL. Why give F**ing Telkom more money?? For R599 you can get wireless connection 128kb/s 24/7 uncaped ( Wireless online, Uninet etc.) . I know you get 3Gb at great speed and then you throttled down to unusable speeds. Do you really need ADSL to browse and send email. Is that extra 3Gb that you use in one day if you are a big downloader worth it. One good reason.
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Darth Garth
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In ADSL you have your own connection to the Internet cloud from the exchange compared to sharing a tower with other users.
Call my old school but I still prefer my '1' and '0's to travel over a piece of wire that I can see.
On a stormy day my MNET decoder sometimes looses the signal and my gate remote has a mind of it's own and my cellphone reception is pretty daft at times and my car radio goes funny when I pass by powerlines.
Just say NO to wireless.
Call my old school but I still prefer my '1' and '0's to travel over a piece of wire that I can see.
On a stormy day my MNET decoder sometimes looses the signal and my gate remote has a mind of it's own and my cellphone reception is pretty daft at times and my car radio goes funny when I pass by powerlines.
Just say NO to wireless.
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I had huge amounts of trouble getting my ADSL line installed and stable. But aftger all the headaches I have to say ADSL is WAY better than Iburst and Sentech ...pings are stable and connection is always there...just wish I vould get ADSl from some one else and cheaper...
I'm dead happy with my wireless connection. If done correctly, wireless can work just as well was a wired system. In fact, I got a site survey done today at a factory my mates have in Killarney Gardens.. they were looking at ADSL 'options' and asked me for advice.. they weren't chuffed *at all* about the price, and the 3GB cap was a concern as about 5 ppl will be using the connection. So tomorrow I will find out the installation date and we'll be enjoying wireless bliss, free from the shackles of a Telskom land line and a damn sight cheaper too.. and uncapped.
Sorry telkom.. but you wanna rip the arse out of pricing so this is what you get. We may share the connection wirelessly with other people in the area and you can be most sure that I will be going round to every business telling them about wireless and explaining to them what cheaper options are available.. I can't *wait*!
Sorry telkom.. but you wanna rip the arse out of pricing so this is what you get. We may share the connection wirelessly with other people in the area and you can be most sure that I will be going round to every business telling them about wireless and explaining to them what cheaper options are available.. I can't *wait*!
LoneGunman
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I posted part of this in another thread here, but its perhaps useful to plonk here as well - as I'm an IBurst user, and I've applied for adsl and the clock is ticking down to installation date.
So why adsl?
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biggest sell for me with adsl is the ability to buy (at a relatively 'reasonable' price) a 30 gig monthly package - (which at current IBurst rates, on a 3 gig package @R399 per extra 3 gigs - would cost R4000 a month)
I like the idea of having a 30 gig pool of data to use, and for another 600 or so, if I want, it turns into 60 gigs to play with every month. No extra fiddling, no workarounds, no proxies, just a big chunk of available data download that I can rely on.
For me, the amount of time and energy and money taken in trying to get IBurst to be consistent and reliable and deliver what I want, I'd rather pay someone else and get a guaranteed quantity of monthly data..
It depends on you, your financial situation, and your online habits. I want a lot of available data available to me so I can download the things I'm into, without stress - and without having to run back and forth to Iburst, for instance, to pay for more of their overpriced 'extra gigs'.
You need to weigh up how you use your internet connection, and also how you value your time and energy - for me, I'd rather be paying R1200 a month and not have to think at all about 'whether or not I should download X' - or stare at my throttled modem speed and know its going to take me days to download something at a miserable speed.
I dont really care about local being capped or not, as there is absolutely nothing on local internet that I want. It might be nice to continue to be able to offer/share stuff to others locally - but from a selfish perspective - I dont really need local uncapped. I just need that 30 gigs (at least) to rely on, for downloading what I like, without any stress, endless bitching on forum, sitting on hold at IBurst helpdesk etc etc
But each persons requirements and approaches to the Internet are different. There's no one good reason why ADSL rather than IBurst. My motivation is the available and speedy chunk of monthly data, my growing irritation at Iburst service/management, and my willingness and ability to pay for a stress-free internet experience.
So why adsl?
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biggest sell for me with adsl is the ability to buy (at a relatively 'reasonable' price) a 30 gig monthly package - (which at current IBurst rates, on a 3 gig package @R399 per extra 3 gigs - would cost R4000 a month)
I like the idea of having a 30 gig pool of data to use, and for another 600 or so, if I want, it turns into 60 gigs to play with every month. No extra fiddling, no workarounds, no proxies, just a big chunk of available data download that I can rely on.
For me, the amount of time and energy and money taken in trying to get IBurst to be consistent and reliable and deliver what I want, I'd rather pay someone else and get a guaranteed quantity of monthly data..
It depends on you, your financial situation, and your online habits. I want a lot of available data available to me so I can download the things I'm into, without stress - and without having to run back and forth to Iburst, for instance, to pay for more of their overpriced 'extra gigs'.
You need to weigh up how you use your internet connection, and also how you value your time and energy - for me, I'd rather be paying R1200 a month and not have to think at all about 'whether or not I should download X' - or stare at my throttled modem speed and know its going to take me days to download something at a miserable speed.
I dont really care about local being capped or not, as there is absolutely nothing on local internet that I want. It might be nice to continue to be able to offer/share stuff to others locally - but from a selfish perspective - I dont really need local uncapped. I just need that 30 gigs (at least) to rely on, for downloading what I like, without any stress, endless bitching on forum, sitting on hold at IBurst helpdesk etc etc
But each persons requirements and approaches to the Internet are different. There's no one good reason why ADSL rather than IBurst. My motivation is the available and speedy chunk of monthly data, my growing irritation at Iburst service/management, and my willingness and ability to pay for a stress-free internet experience.
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Wireless sucks big time, if you can get ADSL, do it! There is no question of choice!
I just cancelled my iBurst, it is complete parody of internet! It is useless! You can't do a **** with it! Everything but the web browsing is blocked! There is no chat, no gaming, no streaming, no P2P! Why the fu*k one needs a connection like that!
With ADSL the problems end with the installation of the line! With iBurst they begin with the installation of the modem!
I just cancelled my iBurst, it is complete parody of internet! It is useless! You can't do a **** with it! Everything but the web browsing is blocked! There is no chat, no gaming, no streaming, no P2P! Why the fu*k one needs a connection like that!
With ADSL the problems end with the installation of the line! With iBurst they begin with the installation of the modem!
Shintorojin
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ADSL has had a lot more time and money to get to where it is today... Albeit the prices still suck.. But had iburst had the time, money and resources telkom and adsl has had. I wonder somehow if this conversation would be the other way around... Well perhaps in 10 years when i'm no longer in this depraved country i'll check back here and hear all about our newer generation saying internet is finally fast and at a fair price in this country. THen i'll be like my grandmother and say: "When i was your age..." 
Long Live internet freedom!!
Long Live internet freedom!!
Vox Populi Vox Dei
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ADSL - Reliable, Pings to gaming servers are low, no "fiddling" to get optimum speed as LG said.
stoke
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You can actually use ADSL for stuff.
- host your website.
- play a local FPS network game.
- have a VOIP conversation with somebody.
- listern to streaming content.
Until you're capped.
i.e. Reliability. And this reallly saddens me, i'd love to see wireless kick wired's ass.
- host your website.
- play a local FPS network game.
- have a VOIP conversation with somebody.
- listern to streaming content.
Until you're capped.
i.e. Reliability. And this reallly saddens me, i'd love to see wireless kick wired's ass.
bb_matt
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YOU HAVE A CHOICE
That's why ADSL is good overseas and is getting better here - forget for now that Hellkom is incapable of upgrading lines fast enough, with ADSL you have a mature technology with offerings from may different sources.
You have consumer choice to decide which ISP to go with
Your not locked down to a single proprietry technology and thus a single ISP using a specific devise.
With iBurst, you spend a fortune on a modem that can only be used with iBurst.
With ADSL, you can choose from 100 different modems and, currently, in South Africa, about 20 different ISP's
It's a no-brainer.
Enter problem - not everyone can get it.
That's why ADSL is good overseas and is getting better here - forget for now that Hellkom is incapable of upgrading lines fast enough, with ADSL you have a mature technology with offerings from may different sources.
You have consumer choice to decide which ISP to go with
Your not locked down to a single proprietry technology and thus a single ISP using a specific devise.
With iBurst, you spend a fortune on a modem that can only be used with iBurst.
With ADSL, you can choose from 100 different modems and, currently, in South Africa, about 20 different ISP's
It's a no-brainer.
Enter problem - not everyone can get it.
Shintorojin
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Lol, I have to agree withh bb_matt, except for the time being however the isp option. cause they all still buy from telkom, when thats sorted then it'll just be the fact that it would eat to much of telkom's profits to actually upgrade the remainder of the country... Anyone else notice that the telkom upgrade situation is much like the governments give water to the nation program 
Started 11 years ago, and they've done what put it like 50 taps in various towns so far
Started 11 years ago, and they've done what put it like 50 taps in various towns so far I don't want to talk more advantages of ADSL, you can google then you learn a lot. It's the best choice for residential user in any aspects. But I'd like give an advice for all ADSL user to-be. ADSL stability very depends on your telephone line quality, the distance between you and the exchange box (max. 5km in theory) and the noise on line (bad copper wire, improper contact etc) are main factors to the connection stability. You can hear properly, doesn't mean you can connect nicely ..., if possible, test your line before you go!
That's why you always hear the arguement about ADSL, since they aren't on same circumstance, and that's why Telkom tells you the service of ADSL is not guaranteed.
That's why you always hear the arguement about ADSL, since they aren't on same circumstance, and that's why Telkom tells you the service of ADSL is not guaranteed.