Why, as an Android user, I still can't use iOS

Maverick Jester

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I've mentioned my annoyances with iOS before, but I think that they are perfectly summarised in this review of the iPhone 6.

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Basically, he hit the nail on the head for me regarding the ridiculousness of the Settings menu (this alone infuriated me greatly when I owned the iPhone 5), and the strange way the App Store goes about cataloging results. The lack of customisation was a given.
 
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For me: searching mail is so clumsy and slow compared to native gmail
 
I can't use iOS either. Compared to Android (Cyanogenmod on KitKat) it's like stepping back in time to when mobile software was a total chore to use. I don't even like helping those in my family with iOS devices. It gives me a headache. It's all just so horrible.
 
I've mentioned my annoyances with iOS before, but I think that they are perfectly summarised in this review of the iPhone 6.
From the review about the camera:
It is asking to be scratched.
Sure I hate Apple, the iPhone, and the bulging camera but off the bat the reviewer didn't do his/her homework. The camera has sapphire glass
the home button and iSight camera lens cover in the iPhone 5S contain sapphire crystal (and now, we know the home button and iSight camera lens cover in the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus do, too).
 
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From the review about the camera:
Sure I hate Apple, the iPhone, and the bulging camera but off the bat the reviewer didn't do his/her homework. The camera has sapphire glass

That doesn't mean that his statement is incorrect. Sapphire glass is more scratch resistant, but the positioning of the camera makes it more prone to scratching. He isn't the only person to complain about the bulge, either.
 
From the review about the camera:
Sure I hate Apple, the iPhone, and the bulging camera but off the bat the reviewer didn't do his/her homework. The camera has sapphire glass

I've seen a scratched home button on an iPhone 5s, so the sapphire glass is certainly not scratch proof.
 
I don't want to use iOS because of iTunes.

The End.

PS : PlasmaPot is going to freak out. :eek:
 
That's fine and all, he's certainly entitled to not like iOS/iPhone, but I think it's very easy to gripe when you first move over to another ecosystem. I tend to find more that irritates me about Android over the way the same processes are handled in iOS but after a while you get used to it and it really isn't an issue; or some of the aspects he pointed out about iOS I thought oh yeah that is actually stupid; but it never occurred to me to be bothered by it when I was using iOS daily.

In fact alright here's my list of Android annoyances:
1) The fact that it forces you to choose how to associate apps with actions is infuriating. If I click a link to an app, I expect to go to the Play Store - I don't want a notification asking me to choose from a handful of apps, and then not being sure if I'm associating all links or just app store links.
2) The lack of high quality default apps. Out of the box you've probably got 2 browsers of which 1 is decent and the other is default; 1 crappy music player, 1 crappy camera app, 1 crappy messaging app, 1 crappy mail app, 1 crappy keyboard. You need to then go and find decent alternatives to install and then figure out how to make them default, and the chances are you'll never be able to delete the default ones and they'll always be gremlin-ing up your system. Some you just may never find really decent versions for.
3) The erratic behaviour of the back button as opposed to in-app back buttons. The reviewer posted this as a negative of iOS and I couldn't disagree more. It's a usability nightmare. iOS in general forces UX consistency.
4) Games just don't seem to perform as well as they do on iOS. 3D games tend to slowdown at least on my phone. You still have compatibility issues with some games that cause graphical glitches.
5) The behavior of notifications - the notification window is better than ios but the way ios gives a clear visible message that wakes the screen is much more logical. However I knew they're fixing this in L so that will be nice.

But all of that is just gripes. It doesn't mean that I as an iOS user can't use Android. You gotta man up sometime.
 
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That's fine and all, he's certainly entitled to not like iOS/iPhone, but I think it's very easy to gripe when you first move over to another ecosystem. I tend to find more that irritates me about Android over the way the same processes are handled in iOS but after a while you get used to it and it really isn't an issue; or some of the aspects he pointed out about iOS I thought oh yeah that is actually stupid; but it never occurred to me to be bothered by it when I was using iOS daily.

In fact alright here's my list of Android annoyances:
1) The fact that it forces you to choose how to associate apps with actions is infuriating. If I click a link to an app, I expect to go to the Play Store - I don't want a notification asking me to choose from a handful of apps, and then not being sure if I'm associating all links or just app store links.
2) The lack of high quality default apps. Out of the box you've probably got 2 browsers of which 1 is decent and the other is default; 1 crappy music player, 1 crappy camera app, 1 crappy messaging app, 1 crappy mail app, 1 crappy keyboard. You need to then go and find decent alternatives to install and then figure out how to make them default, and the chances are you'll never be able to delete the default ones and they'll always be gremlin-ing up your system. Some you just may never find really decent versions for.
3) The erratic behaviour of the back button as opposed to in-app back buttons. The reviewer posted this as a negative of iOS and I couldn't disagree more. It's a usability nightmare. iOS in general forces UX consistency.
4) Games just don't seem to perform as well as they do on iOS. 3D games tend to slowdown at least on my phone. You still have compatibility issues with some games that cause graphical glitches.
5) The behavior of notifications - the notification window is better than ios but the way ios gives a clear visible message that wakes the screen is much more logical. However I knew they're fixing this in L so that will be nice.

But all of that is just gripes. It doesn't mean that I as an iOS user can't use Android. You gotta man up sometime.

App associations aren't a mission in Android. Choosing to always open links in the Play Store only applies to Play Store links, just like choosing the Youtube app as a default only intercepts Youtube links.

Why does it matter if the default apps are of average quality? It takes a few minutes to sort your apps out and then you're done. Personally I prefer not depending on first party apps because then you'd suffer an inconsistent user experience if you try out various custom firmwares or other manufacturers' devices. Apple's first party apps are pretty poor imo, or at the very least, using quality third party apps on Android has made it impossible for me to appreciate them.

You can delete system apps on Android if you're rooted. I can't think of any app that you may be unable to replace with a better third party alternative. My OnePlus One had no bloatware installed out the box at all, so you can definitely find any app you need as that is what I would have been forced to do if I didn't already have such preferences.

The back button is rarely unpredictable. You must use a hell of a lot of apps if it's frequently taking you places you don't want to go. Or perhaps you're not using the home button when your intention is to exit an app.

Why would you want notifications to wake your screen? Most Android phones have dedicated light indicators that you can use to determine if something needs your attention.
 
App associations aren't a mission in Android. Choosing to always open links in the Play Store only applies to Play Store links, just like choosing the Youtube app as a default only intercepts Youtube links.

Why does it matter if the default apps are of average quality? It takes a few minutes to sort your apps out and then you're done. Personally I prefer not depending on first party apps because then you'd suffer an inconsistent user experience if you try out various custom firmwares or other manufacturers' devices. Apple's first party apps are pretty poor imo, or at the very least, using quality third party apps on Android has made it impossible for me to appreciate them.

You can delete system apps on Android if you're rooted. I can't think of any app that you may be unable to replace with a better third party alternative. My OnePlus One had no bloatware installed out the box at all, so you can definitely find any app you need as that is what I would have been forced to do if I didn't already have such preferences.

The back button is rarely unpredictable. You must use a hell of a lot of apps if it's frequently taking you places you don't want to go. Or perhaps you're not using the home button when your intention is to exit an app.

Why would you want notifications to wake your screen? Most Android phones have dedicated light indicators that you can use to determine if something needs your attention.
You're missing the point entirely.
 
You're missing the point entirely.

I'm not convinced that I am. You seem to be criticising Android for one of its greatest strengths - allowing you to define your experience. This isn't iPhone where you just have to get used to what Apple gives you.
 
I'm not convinced that I am. You seem to be criticising Android for one of its greatest strengths - allowing you to define your experience. This isn't iPhone where you just have to get used to what Apple gives you.
Yes, you really are. I'm not criticizing Android. These are a list of things that are gripes for me as a transitioning ios user, but they're things I've looked past as eventually I'm able to use android regardless of its quirks. It's not a rebuttal or a pro-ios post at all. You're such an eager little android bulldog that you think any critique is fanboyism
 
Yes, you really are. I'm not criticizing Android. These are a list of things that are gripes for me as a transitioning ios user, but they're things I've looked past as eventually I'm able to use android regardless of its quirks. It's not a rebuttal or a pro-ios post at all. You're such an eager little android bulldog that you think any critique is fanboyism

I'd wager that I have a longer list of Android criticisms that you do. I just thought I'd address the points you raised because they seem to be weak criticisms. In any case, I substantiated each point I made so it's poor form to accuse me of flying off the handle. My replies are not catered to an iOS user. I could have the same conversation with an Android user.
 
I'd wager that I have a longer list of Android criticisms that you do. I just thought I'd address the points you raised because they seem to be weak criticisms. In any case, I substantiated each point I made so it's poor form to accuse me of flying off the handle. My replies are not catered to an iOS user. I could have the same conversation with an Android user.
I'm not accusing you of flying off the handle, just missing the point. My points are legitimate to me, which is basically all that matters. As someone coming from ios I primarily care about user experience so that's why I raised issues around usability, which might not have occurred to you as dealbreakers.
 
I'd wager that I have a longer list of Android criticisms that you do. I just thought I'd address the points you raised because they seem to be weak criticisms. In any case, I substantiated each point I made so it's poor form to accuse me of flying off the handle. My replies are not catered to an iOS user. I could have the same conversation with an Android user.

No, he is right- you did miss the point he made, which was simply the gripes an iOS user has over Android. Much like the article I posted :)
 
That's fine and all, he's certainly entitled to not like iOS/iPhone, but I think it's very easy to gripe when you first move over to another ecosystem. I tend to find more that irritates me about Android over the way the same processes are handled in iOS but after a while you get used to it and it really isn't an issue; or some of the aspects he pointed out about iOS I thought oh yeah that is actually stupid; but it never occurred to me to be bothered by it when I was using iOS daily.

I think that the way his review was written was to address the general sort of frustrations that someone used to working with Android would have when moving over to iOS. I certainly felt the friction points grated me enough to swap my iPhone for a Note 2 at the time. And I even jailbroke it to try and work around my frustrations.

No doubt, that with more time and patience than I had then, I could have adapted to the iOS workflow.

In fact alright here's my list of Android annoyances:
1) The fact that it forces you to choose how to associate apps with actions is infuriating. If I click a link to an app, I expect to go to the Play Store - I don't want a notification asking me to choose from a handful of apps, and then not being sure if I'm associating all links or just app store links.
2) The lack of high quality default apps. Out of the box you've probably got 2 browsers of which 1 is decent and the other is default; 1 crappy music player, 1 crappy camera app, 1 crappy messaging app, 1 crappy mail app, 1 crappy keyboard. You need to then go and find decent alternatives to install and then figure out how to make them default, and the chances are you'll never be able to delete the default ones and they'll always be gremlin-ing up your system. Some you just may never find really decent versions for.
3) The erratic behaviour of the back button as opposed to in-app back buttons. The reviewer posted this as a negative of iOS and I couldn't disagree more. It's a usability nightmare. iOS in general forces UX consistency.
4) Games just don't seem to perform as well as they do on iOS. 3D games tend to slowdown at least on my phone. You still have compatibility issues with some games that cause graphical glitches.
5) The behavior of notifications - the notification window is better than ios but the way ios gives a clear visible message that wakes the screen is much more logical. However I knew they're fixing this in L so that will be nice.

To rebut your statements would be wrong of me, because they are issues that you rightly have with Android, but I do want to add:

1. Intents, simply put, will be able to tell if there is a possible app association available to you in relation to a link. If you've got the app (Twitter, Play Store, Facebook, etc) installed, the intents picker will prompt you on whether you would like to use it. But once defaulted, it will always know to open that sort of link with that application. Hope that it makes sense.
2. iOS has the exact same flaw- crap default apps that cannot be deleted, or even hidden with a different launcher.
3. I'm curious as to how you find it erratic? Genuinely asking, because I wouldn't know why due to it being the user flow that I'm used to. I certainly miss it when using an iOS device.
4. Totally agreed. Games are much better in terms of performance and running at consistent frame rates, even if they look less detailed on iOS devices.
5. That is already possible in Android, too. CloudyG3's stock messaging app allows that, as does WhatsApp. Unless you mean full view of the message? I think that's possible, I've certainly seen it before.

But all of that is just gripes. It doesn't mean that I as an iOS user can't use Android. You gotta man up sometime.

But it took you a longer period of time to acclimatise. He only had a few weeks. I'm sure that with more time, he would have worked through his gripes (except that Settings menu. I could never get used to that).
 
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