Why capitalism fails

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Since the global financial system started unraveling in dramatic fashion two years ago, distinguished economists have suffered a crisis of their own. Ivy League professors who had trumpeted the dawn of a new era of stability have scrambled to explain how, exactly, the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression had ambushed their entire profession.

Amid the hand-wringing and the self-flagellation, a few more cerebral commentators started to speak about the arrival of a “Minsky moment,” and a growing number of insiders began to warn of a coming “Minsky meltdown.”

“Minsky” was shorthand for Hyman Minsky, a hitherto obscure macroeconomist who died over a decade ago. Many economists had never heard of him when the crisis struck, and he remains a shadowy figure in the profession. But lately he has begun emerging as perhaps the most prescient big-picture thinker about what, exactly, we are going through. A contrarian amid the conformity of postwar America, an expert in the then-unfashionable subfields of finance and crisis, Minsky was one economist who saw what was coming. He predicted, decades ago, almost exactly the kind of meltdown that recently hammered the global economy.

In recent months Minsky’s star has only risen. Nobel Prize-winning economists talk about incorporating his insights, and copies of his books are back in print and selling well. He’s gone from being a nearly forgotten figure to a key player in the debate over how to fix the financial system.

But if Minsky was as right as he seems to have been, the news is not exactly encouraging. He believed in capitalism, but also believed it had almost a genetic weakness. Modern finance, he

argued, was far from the stabilizing force that mainstream economics portrayed: rather, it was a system that created the illusion of stability while simultaneously creating the conditions for an inevitable and dramatic collapse.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/09/13/why_capitalism_fails/

Capitalism fails because of greed and that it thrives on exploitation. Safeguards need to be put in place to protect countries and people.

I noticed Norway got through this depression better than most because of its "just left of middle" political change before all this started. Go Norway!
 
Yes and there is no exploitation in China as well...... Yeah right
 
Yes and there is no exploitation in China as well...... Yeah right

Of course there is... who would make such an absurd statement? Oh wait... strawman.... I get it. Its pretty evident communism like capitalism is a failure. Of course choosing one or the other extreme will likely always be a failure. Look for middle ground dude. You can do it!
 
Every country is in, what you call the middle ground.. The mixed economy. Not even America is fully Capitalist the same way China isn't fully Communist..

This crisis aside (and by accepting capitalism, you accept boom and bust periods) , capitalism is the better system. I like to reap what I sow
 
Every country is in, what you call the middle ground.. The mixed economy. Not even America is fully Capitalist the same way China isn't fully Communist..

This crisis aside (and by accepting capitalism, you accept boom and bust periods) , capitalism is the better system. I like to reap what I sow

I love the Capitalist incentive.. I really do... however, I believe we lose our humanity when thats all that everyone guns for.

The problem with having lots of money is you keep making lots of money, and you get an inverted pyramid of money mostly trickling to a few very wealthy individuals.. who really dont need it anymore. This means less money out there for everyone else.

I think a strong social system like the Swedes and Norwegians have looks to me the best answer. If you have all the wealth heading towards a few wealthy people at the expense of the population the gap between the rich and poor becomes worse. As South Africa has proven, the bigger the gap between the rich and poor the more crime and social issues you will have.

To make sure all people are looked after there needs to be a strong social system to protect the weak and look after everyones basic needs, but retaining the capitalistic incentive for a person to succeed and do better in life.
 
Ha I will make a small contribution to this in the following way:

Personal gain from your work is fine and well PROVIDED it is not at the expense of someone elses. The issue is simply that of a lack of morals. We see how people use the "rules" to justify their extravagence and their greed.

Even greed is not in itself bad so long as it is again not at the expense of others. The issue will always come down to reasonable compensation for services rendered. Who determines what is "reasonable"?
 
Capitalism fails because of greed and that it thrives on exploitation. Safeguards need to be put in place to protect countries and people.

I noticed Norway got through this depression better than most because of its "just left of middle" political change before all this started. Go Norway!

communism fails because of dehumanized and it thrives on LAZINESS.
thank you Marxist...........

LEFT or RIGHT are not correct, stay in MIDDLE, good choice. :)
 
Remember what capitalism got you, all you have now, and also the ability to complain about it's excesses. Yet, not one of you are willing to do without, right now to make a difference.
 
Long live the Proletariate comrade Wiz
 
Nice to see Minsky is finally getting some recognition (I just learned about him from reading the article).
 
Cute Alan... agitator of note. Nothing of substance. I think I understand now why people put you on their ignore lists.

Carry on spaming this section. Suddenly this wave of threads. Squirming /me thinks. Anyway if you want to actually discuss policies and not lame trolling here's a thread that you've not surprisingly failed to post in :erm:
 
Please can anyone give me a shout when free market capitalism is actually put in place. What we have in SA, Europe and the US is NOT free market capitalism.

It is a heavily regulated and distorted market. The US burst bubble and subprime is due to to govt interference removing risk in the subprime market and is a result of Keynsian boom bust cycles.

What we have currently is a form of corporatism - where lobbying groups (finance, health care) are able to lobby themselves market niche's. And you want more control to go to governments and central banks?

What we need is more capitalism, not less. It is very telling that it was the free market libertarians (Schiff, Rockwell) who predicted the collapse of the housing bubble.
 
"It should be noted that numerous other whistleblowers and insiders such as Benjamin Fulford, Dr. Pete Peterson, leading economists and others are predicting the collapse of the dollar and the Federal Reserve, possibly by the end of the fiscal year on September 30, 2009.

In addition, Congressman and former Presidential candidate, Ron Paul, has introduced legislation (HR 1207) to audit the Federal Reserve, which is being supported by the Democratic contingent led by Congressman Barney Frank, who is considering opening hearings on this matter and has stated publicly the bill will pass in October. (Don't hold your breath, however, counting on this Congress to do anything of value at this late stage of the game.)" - Google
 
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