Widows!!

Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and may His blessings and peace be upon our Profit Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.

If a woman’s husband dies, she has to stay in the house where she was staying before the death of her husband, and should not go out except for a necessity and then she has to return home.

This is for all the waiting period which is 4 months and 10 days if she is not pregnant.

Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {And those of you who die and leave wives behind them, they (the wives) shall wait (as regards their marriage) for four months and ten days, ….}[2:234].

If a woman is pregnant, she has to wait until she gives birth to. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {….And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens),….}[65:4].

Therefore, if your sister is not pregnant, then what one sister told her is true. Because only one month and a half nearly expired from the waiting period, and she has to wait for another month or so.

She has to spend the remainder of her waiting period in the house where she was staying even if she is on the condition that you have mentioned.

Ashab al-Sunan, Malik and Ahmad reported from the Hadith of Abu Said Al-Khudri that when his sister’s husband passed away, she went to the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) and told him: ‘O Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) of Allah, my husband died, and I am living in a home that was faraway from the home of my family and brothers. He did not leave any money (wealth) for me to spend, I did not inherit any wealth, and he did not have a house, so if you give me permission I will join my family and my brothers’ house. I like it and it is better for me to fulfill some needs’. The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) replied: “You can do so if you wish”.

She said, ‘I was happy and comforted that Allah has ruled on me by the tongue of the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam)’. (This was before the revelation of the verse concerning the waiting period that a divorced or widowed woman has to observe before she can marry again).

But while I was at the mosque or in one of the rooms, the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) called me and said, “What did you say earlier?” She reported the story to the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) then the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) said: “Stay in your house in which you got the news of the death of your husband until the prescribed waiting period finishes”. She said: “So, I stayed in that home four months and 10 days”.

But a woman, during this period, can go out of her house during daytime to fulfill her necessities like buying food or anything else for her or for her children.

Allah knows best.
And thanks to the SA Court system, the Muslim marriages are no longer in control by the MJC, they have been sidelined and must be registered like the rest of us, and women has claims like the rest of us.

So Antenuptials become like a wish list. A judge can overrule out of community now.

They gets half your pension, even if you had been working for 20 years and only married for 2 years. She gets spousal maintenance for life even. Sorry to burst your bubbles but alas thats how it goes in SA now.
 
I probably won't be that inclined to go out on the prowl for fresh meat, but would certainly live a bit larger for a bit as I'll effectively become financially self sustainable overnight.
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My greatly missed late wife (peace be upon her soul) took an Insurance policy of R10m with me as beneficiary just months before she died. God bless her soul!
 
Do you have life insurance? Guess not.

If a person dies, their house is paid off. So there is no bond remaining. The Estate takes care of that and transfers it into their name without any real fees (no need for electric, plumbing or gas inspections).

Then the life insurance pays out. Pretty quickly including any pension the husband had. So about R5-10 million or more.

Add to that any other investments etc.

So yip the wife will have a fully paid off house, about 5-10 million in the bank.



Now many a young asian girl marries older grandpas, because they basically get everything and a lot more, then 2nd time around they can date a guy of their choosing.

So yip they can be rich after their husband's death and its pretty normal.
Pretty much....

If you have no kids and then all of a sudden those policies pay out, most would be sorts.
Especially if the wife has her own career already.

Many policies pay a full salary for a certain amount of time, then the costs are also half.
So half the medical aid, half the cost of living, one less car etc

Some people get totally screwed with a partner death, others do not.
 
My greatly missed late wife (peace be upon her soul) took an Insurance policy of R10m with me as beneficiary just months before she died. God bless her soul!
Wow, that's amazing. Sorry for your loss, sounds like a very caring person.
 
No, but why only make the effort to lose weight, dress smarter etc when your husband is dead. That's what my question is
She likely went through some considerable trauma dealing with the loss of her partner.

Eating is not high on the list of priorities when your life completely falls apart....
 
Do you have life insurance? Guess not.

If a person dies, their house is paid off. So there is no bond remaining. The Estate takes care of that and transfers it into their name without any real fees (no need for electric, plumbing or gas inspections).

Then the life insurance pays out. Pretty quickly including any pension the husband had. So about R5-10 million or more.

Add to that any other investments etc.

So yip the wife will have a fully paid off house, about 5-10 million in the bank.



Now many a young asian girl marries older grandpas, because they basically get everything and a lot more, then 2nd time around they can date a guy of their choosing.

So yip they can be rich after their husband's death and its pretty normal.
I do have life insurance, for my kids.

I'm divorced, she was kind enough to show how she would have reacted had I died while I am still alive, minus the money ofcourse.
 
She likely went through some considerable trauma dealing with the loss of her partner.

Eating is not high on the list of priorities when your life completely falls apart....
That is true. Although I didn't get much trauma or mourning vibes, but then I'm not the most perceptive person when it comes to women.
But you're correct, People handle things in different ways.
 
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Moral of the story - your wife starts going to the gym, dressing up, double check the brakes in your car - chances are she's trying to save some time for once you're gone.
 
What about the other way around? A friend lives in a R50m house in Bishopscourt. His wife inherited an enormous sum about 30 years ago and bought this huge house

He had a job with an estate agent but left this after the inheritance. He does bits of "consulting" when he feels the urge or gets a bit bored
 
If a woman’s husband dies, she has to stay in the house where she was staying before the death of her husband, and should not go out except for a necessity and then she has to return home.
She has to spend the remainder of her waiting period in the house where she was staying even if she is on the condition that you have mentioned.

No. A woman does not HAVE TO do anything. She can do whatever the heck she pleases.

Do better, Carl.
 
What about the other way around? A friend lives in a R50m house in Bishopscourt. His wife inherited an enormous sum about 30 years ago and bought this huge house

He had a job with an estate agent but left this after the inheritance. He does bits of "consulting" when he feels the urge or gets a bit bored
I can just imagine the sum she inherited if she bought a R50m house. I mean, you would not spend your entire inheritance on a property so she must have inherited much, much more than that. Just think how much the cost of maintaining a R50m property is! And the taxes!
 
Wife passed away August 2023,
December I started seeing someone... Was it too soon? At that point, no... It was me and my two boys. I needed someone
We ended it in march 2024,

Went on a series of.... slutty adventures...
Was it needed? Possibly, Am i still at it? No.

Financially? We took a hit, a major one, But we are working our way out of it.
She would have been better off financially. as we planned for me to go first (in a good few years)


As for life change, Yeah you change alot... when youre married, you live with that person, you become one joint facebook account...Family events, Couples outings, You dont push that hard in the gym, cause...well you got a loving partner

Now youre single again, and have to pick up your ****. Things change alot.
Emotionally its different for everyone, My neighbor lost her husband 20ish years ago, has never been on a date since (Doesnt help she looks like a troll), she just has no interest
Results are person dependent
 
What about the other way around? A friend lives in a R50m house in Bishopscourt. His wife inherited an enormous sum about 30 years ago and bought this huge house

He had a job with an estate agent but left this after the inheritance. He does bits of "consulting" when he feels the urge or gets a bit bored
But did she die?
 
I can just imagine the sum she inherited if she bought a R50m house. I mean, you would not spend your entire inheritance on a property so she must have inherited much, much more than that. Just think how much the cost of maintaining a R50m property is! And the taxes!
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She is the only daughter of a German Electro-Medical company owner (begins with an "S"). They have 44 subsidiaries over the world. The company is valued at 3 bn Euros

They have 3 staff to look after the house. She is a bit stuck up but her husband is a very friendly guy

They have what I would call a castle in Fusina in northern Italy. We stayed there in 2016 for a few days. Nice place, expensive shops, chock a block with tourists. Continual traffic to the Swiss border 24/7
 
****..

Do you expect her to just mope around in her PJ's for the rest of her life ?

Everyone copes differently, sometimes the death is drawn out and the spouse morns during this period already.
I’ve seen a person move on quickly and recover
And I’ve seen a person 10 years later still not finding another person and not thinking they could replace what they had…
 
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She is the only daughter of a German Electro-Medical company owner (begins with an "S"). They have 44 subsidiaries over the world. The company is valued at 3 bn Euros

They have 3 staff to look after the house. She is a bit stuck up but her husband is a very friendly guy

They have what I would call a castle in Fusina in northern Italy. We stayed there in 2016 for a few days. Nice place, expensive shops, chock a block with tourists. Continual traffic to the Swiss border 24/7

Siemens.

I would keep the Italian place, for sure! :love:
 
This morning I bumped into a young lady that I worked with around 7yrs ago. Back then I would have rated her a 5.5, slightly plump and seemed to dress for comfort more than anything.
Boy was I was blown away this morning when I saw her, looking way slimmer, using make up and dressed up super fashionably. She's now nothing short of an 8.5.

Long story short, her husband died of Covid in 2021 and it seemed to have changed her completely. I saw her getting into a very new looking black Beiging car. I don't even think she had a car back then.

She's the second person I know that's changed completely since the death of her husband. The other one bought an X5 within a few months and is going on a 3 month holiday in April. Her husband died in 2023.

Just curious to find out the general feeling about the things I wondered about.

Is this sort of thing a common occurrence.
Is it inappropriate in any way.
How long should a wife be in mourning?
Has anyone encountered a husband do something similar? , I haven't

Or, are they simply making the best of a bad situation and moving on with their lives, as they should.

You started the friday thread a bit earlier ey?
 
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