WIFI Hotspot

armitage · Oct 20, 2003

This is most likely the most relevant place that i can post this. well here goes.
I stay bout a 100m away from a friend who i lan with every weekend now i stay in an apartment an from my window i can actually c his house now i was wondering if anyone knew of a company or a locally available wifi router(outdoor) that i could buy that would remove the need for me to actually lug pc over there every weekend.

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Andre · Oct 20, 2003

How about one of these:
http://www.netgear.com/products/prod_details.asp?prodID=165&view=

If I'm not mistaken one of the forum members has one so you could do a search and ask him what it's like.

Linksys make some wireless stuff that I've used with DSL as well, not sure if their products are available locally.

armitage · Oct 22, 2003

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Thats a nice product i must say built in adsl modem with a wireless switch.
but whats the range i wonder?
It looks like an indoor wifi switch cause most of the pics ive seen of the outdoor ones look like little military lunch boxes(able to withstand volcanic temparatures, fall from orbits, lightning strikes, meteor impacts)
also the price is about so thats R1099 without import tax.
I wonder who supplies it locally?

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Andre · Oct 22, 2003

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also the price is about so thats R1099 without import tax.
I wonder who supplies it locally?
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I think that Netgear is more like R3000 here. From what I've seen the range of this wireless stuff is not that great and signal gets blocked by walls easily.

You do get repeaters though that can help. Maybe stick a repeater near the window?

armitage · Oct 22, 2003

but whats the range i wonder?

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Andre · Oct 22, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by armitage
 but whats the range i wonder?
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Some answers here:
http://www.linksys.com/products/wirelessstandards.asp

armitage · Nov 3, 2003

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]definetly gonna try an set up a wifi network in the bellvile area gonna be kewl just gotta get a friend on the bottom of bill bezuidenhout to put up a router on the top of his apartment building.
pringles boosters awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!

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NGR · Nov 18, 2003

Hi Guys,

There is actually a MUCH earlier way to connect your two PC's!!
An important point though!
NB NB NB - You will need a CLEAR line of sight between the two houses! That means, NO Tree's, no buildings - NOTHING...
You should both be able to stand on your roof's and wave to each other!!!
You say you're about 100m away from each other! You will be wasting your time if you use routers,bridges,AP's etc(they will work but its really not necessasy) as its just the two of you!

Now, what you would need is the following for each side :
1 x Wireless network card (+-R450, has a range of up to 1.2KM-CAN be made alot further though with the right equipment)
1 x Pigtail (+-R110 - to connect wireless card to antennae)
1 x 8dBi Patch Antennae should do the trick(+-R200 - a pringle can will work but its not very reliable and will take a while to align properly - IF it works!!!)

If you want more people to join your lan you would need an bridge/AP(Access point) - and people can connect up to 25km away (Dont forget the line of sight though) - Access point's go for about R1400! There have even been instances of people connecting 41km apart with these specific AP's in the karoo...

Hope this helped....

ASF · Nov 18, 2003

Yeah and it's totally illegal if the signal crosses any form of official boundary such a road. It is of course entirely legal if it is used within a closed boundary such as a resdidential or office complex.... but I guess that's not ideal.

NGR · Nov 18, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ASF
 Yeah and it's totally illegal if the signal crosses any form of official boundary such a road. It is of course entirely legal if it is used within a closed boundary such as a resdidential or office complex.... but I guess that's not ideal.
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Yeah, suppose it is illegal - ICASA wont be happy... hopefully things will change though and we could have huge wireless lan party's! but suppose that wont happen anytime soon! Oh well....[B)]

armitage · Dec 4, 2003

Its not illegal(well i think it is most likely wrong) anymore if it crosses a road. and according to what i've read in most of the forums icasa is only gonna be on ure case if ure emmisions is too high. so no crappy antennas that leak like a blowup dart board.

well i found out yesterday of a wifi group in me neighbourhood so im gonna see if i can join up with them and build my own one cause these guys seem to use it just for gaming which is woooooooot

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mithrandi · Dec 4, 2003

Just because it isn't being enforced doesn't mean it isn't illegal. As I understand it, establishing any kind of telecommuncations across a municiple boundary is illegal; eg. it's illegal to run CAT-5 over your garden wall. If you want to do that legally, you would have to pay Telkom to install a leased line of some kind. In fact, I think it's illegal just to run CAT-5 from one floor of an office building to another if they're owned by different companies / whatever.

Of course, if no-one knows about it, no-one is going to do anything about it...

mithrandi

mastercom · Dec 11, 2003

hello everyone, i would like to deploy hotspot equipments, but i have a hard time chosing the right equipments for my environment.
any help would be appreciated
thanks

F.David

armitage · Dec 18, 2003

Well mastercom where or what area r u residing in? maybe if were close we can do a joint op
It seems a couple of guys that r running hotspots already r using netgears also try out this site http://sawireless.tripod.com/ the guy who did it has a nice amount of articles u can read an find out for ureself what is the best.

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mbs · Dec 19, 2003

Armitage - mastercom is in Nigeria, according to his profile - please don't tell me you're going to use Telkom's SpeedStream?! [

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Noag · Dec 19, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mithrandi
 Just because it isn't being enforced doesn't mean it isn't illegal. As I understand it, establishing any kind of telecommuncations across a municiple boundary is illegal; eg. it's illegal to run CAT-5 over your garden wall. If you want to do that legally, you would have to pay Telkom to install a leased line of some kind. In fact, I think it's illegal just to run CAT-5 from one floor of an office building to another if they're owned by different companies / whatever.

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If the previously disadvantage people can lay wires from the nearest substation so can we. The law in this country is up to crap so noting can happen to you.[

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Here is an idea. Why don’t Security complex get there own private networks on and then they can connect to each other. The complexes has it own switches witch connect to the core switch witch in turn connect to the Internet and to other complexes. Like a giant campus network, and if u move to the flat in the complex u have an option to use it for a fee.[

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I say Lets burn them

SauRoN · Jan 16, 2004

Does anybody know of a local company that actually sells 802.11 compatible Antenna's in the range of 15db and upwards ?

mbs · Jan 16, 2004

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If the previously disadvantage people can lay wires from the nearest substation so can we. The law in this country is up to crap so noting can happen to you.
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Civil disobedience of this kind just leads to anarchy and chaos - my late dad used to say 'Two wrongs don't make a right'...
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Here is an idea. Why don’t Security complex get there own private networks on and then they can connect to each other. The complexes has it own switches witch connect to the core switch witch in turn connect to the Internet and to other complexes. Like a giant campus network, and if u move to the flat in the complex u have an option to use it for a fee.
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And who says that security companies haven't already pursued this? Your idea is not new, and has been pursued already - but there wouldn't be much 'security' if this was made publicly known and available, now would there?

antowan · Jan 16, 2004

I agree.

I would like to know if it would be legal if you get permission from Telkom. In other words, ask them if it would be okay if you setup a link to your friend's place through wireless.

Cheers
Antowan

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mbs
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If the previously disadvantage people can lay wires from the nearest substation so can we. The law in this country is up to crap so noting can happen to you.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Civil disobedience of this kind just leads to anarchy and chaos - my late dad used to say 'Two wrongs don't make a right'...
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
Here is an idea. Why don’t Security complex get there own private networks on and then they can connect to each other. The complexes has it own switches witch connect to the core switch witch in turn connect to the Internet and to other complexes. Like a giant campus network, and if u move to the flat in the complex u have an option to use it for a fee.
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And who says that security companies haven't already pursued this? Your idea is not new, and has been pursued already - but there wouldn't be much 'security' if this was made publicly known and available, now would there?
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He who does not understand the value of war at the right time, cannot comprehend the value of life at any time - Anonymous

mbs · Jan 17, 2004

Nope - it would still be illegal, as Telkom have no mandate to issue authority for this to be provided by a 3rd party, as far as I'm aware. The only people who can do this is ICASA, so you would have to approach them for permission, stating clearly and motivating your case why you cannot make use of the services of the only two providers we have, viz. Telkom or Sentech, with full detail of the intended infrastructure...

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