Will 384Kbs be better/

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Here's asking all you experts.

I have a 192 Kbs account with Telkom and usually getting pretty good speeds (just touched 200Kbs as I type this!), but with the 384 Kbs as the lowest Bandwidth coming out (R25 cheaper for me - aren't I lucky), will I actually be getting a faster deal? Since Telkom can't it keep to 192Kbs, is what I am getting going to be it, or is 384Kbs really going to be all that faster?
 
You will get up to about 42Kb with 384Kb ADSL.
Telkom is going to discontinue 192Kb.
You will now have a 384Kb account at about R25 less per month for connectivity rental, although line rental is going up about R9.

IMO Telkom should have thought this out a bit more.
For the general internet die hards the extra bandwidth is always welcome, but what about entry level ADSL?

Consumers that are on a shoe string budget that just need 24hr. connectivity at the cheapest price possible?
What about them. What about the rest of South Africa that cannot afford the internet?
 
mothersruin said:
just touched 200Kbs as I type this!
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Either your bandwidth reading is incorrect, or Telkom has forgotten to lower your speed.. you will notice a decent improvement in speed with 384, and although it won't be breaking any Internet speed records, it's better than 192.

Funny though, that 192k just came and went.. what was the point really.
 
when?

and when is this speed increase going to happen? will it be automatic do I need to call them? too lazy to go to telkom website.
 
mothersruin said:
Here's asking all you experts.

I have a 192 Kbs account with Telkom and usually getting pretty good speeds (just touched 200Kbs as I type this!), but with the 384 Kbs as the lowest Bandwidth coming out (R25 cheaper for me - aren't I lucky), will I actually be getting a faster deal? Since Telkom can't it keep to 192Kbs, is what I am getting going to be it, or is 384Kbs really going to be all that faster?
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200kbs you mean is 20Kbs actually. Yes, you'll average around 450kbs / 45Kbs , and yes your cap will run out faster so you would have to watch what you're downloading or atleast how much you download.!
 
LabAnimal said:
200kbs you mean is 20Kbs actually. Yes, you'll average around 450kbs / 45Kbs , and yes your cap will run out faster so you would have to watch what you're downloading or atleast how much you download.!
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200Kb/s = 25kB/s

bits \= Bytes

DSL192 generally will give around 20kB/s.
DSL384 generally will give around 40kB/s

Sometimes local seems to run a bit faster tho'. I sometimes get 52kB/s on local downloads on DSL384.
 
arf9999 said:
200Kb/s = 25kB/s

bits \= Bytes

DSL192 generally will give around 20kB/s.
DSL384 generally will give around 40kB/s

Sometimes local seems to run a bit faster tho'. I sometimes get 52kB/s on local downloads on DSL384.
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yea http is hitting 52 - 60Kbs.
 
He's right by saying 200kb/s - since its 25kB/s. Before Telkom trimmed the line speeds I used to get 700kb/s on my 384kb/s line for almost 2 years. Now i only reach about 312kb/s.

You have to remember that 10-15% of your line speed is resevered for TCP/IP overheads.

Meaning, if you have 512kb/s ADSL ; 51,2kb/s is reserved - thus you will get:

512kb/s - 51,2kb/s = 460.8 kb/s
which is ~58kB/s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL
 
LabAnimal said:
200kbs you mean is 20Kbs actually. Yes, you'll average around 450kbs / 45Kbs , and yes your cap will run out faster so you would have to watch what you're downloading or atleast how much you download.!
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200 kbps is in fact 25 Kbps and 450 kbps is about 56 Kbps, you divide by 8, not by 10
 
Jeeva said:
You have to remember that 10-15% of your line speed is resevered for TCP/IP overheads.
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the overhead should be less, unless there are some serious problems with the network, but then the major overhead comes from retransmiting packets. My guess is that the real overhead is less than 5%, most likely between 2 and 3%, assuming that we are transfering substantial amount of data, like in the speed tests.
 
I read one of the posts saying that it would be better for anyone on 192k line to upgrade now as Telkom will probably take a long time to upgrade lines automatically or not even at all (unless a customer requests it). That is what I have done and they did the upgrade in 2 days! I will be paying for 384k at the old price for one month but I would recommend that to anyone else to avoid any problems or stall tactics Telkom might come up with!
 
I'd actually be happy with the 33KBs i was getting on my 192 line until a few months ago.
 
Has the pricing model been fully approved by ICASA, so it will definately come into place on 1st August. I dont want to go upgrading now and then get told,oops sorry...
 
ziglet said:
Has the pricing model been fully approved by ICASA, so it will definately come into place on 1st August. I dont want to go upgrading now and then get told,oops sorry...
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ziglet, there are various things that could happen - but Icasa has apparantly approved the proposed tariffs and now they will be sent to the minister to be signed into law. You can be 95% sure that the proposed prices will come into effect on 1 August.

(ICASA cannot NOT approve the proposals because the proposed prices do not violate the current laws. The Minister, however, CAN refuse to sign the proposals into law, but this is very very unlikely. Time delays to implementation of new prices are unlikely, but still more possible than rejection of proposed prices).
 
Remember also that Telkom has used those wonderfully safe words "up to" in their communications. So what you get may not even be 384 but rather may end up being some mongrel like 204k :D
 
globban said:
I read one of the posts saying that it would be better for anyone on 192k line to upgrade now as Telkom will probably take a long time to upgrade lines automatically or not even at all
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Do they have to come to your house to upgrade or is it automatically done by Telkom?
 
Its a thing they basically just set from a pc. no physical operation has to be performed however.. wth alot of 192k clients being really on the limit wrt attenuation, copper length etc I wonder how automated the process will be. then again mebbe they have a program push extra 64kbps till the attenuation fall out of range etc or reach 384k
 
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