Will street cameras affect fibre speeds?

maumau

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The local security company is negotiating with Vumatel and "an ISP" to install street cameras in our area.

Will this have any effect on home fibre speeds?

TIA
 

isie

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The local security company is negotiating with Vumatel and "an ISP" to install street cameras in our area.

Will this have any effect on home fibre speeds?

TIA

nope.
it's like saying cause your neighbour got fibre as well your speed was affected
 

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Possibly. Will depend on bandwidth capacity in the area, how much the residents use(number of residents and their internet habbits can affect it) at what time, and how much the cameras need to transmit signal. Number of cameras will also could a differrence.
 

maumau

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Possibly. Will depend on bandwidth capacity in the area, how much the residents use(number of residents and their internet habbits can affect it) at what time, and how much the cameras need to transmit signal. Number of cameras will also could a differrence.

That's what I thought tks Venomous.

Residents have been polled but I'm thinking if 30/40 cameras in the area are transmitting 24/7 it has to impact our speeds.
 

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That's what I thought tks Venomous.

Residents have been polled but I'm thinking if 30/40 cameras in the area are transmitting 24/7 it has to impact our speeds.
30 cameras might be a bit much.


Maybe suggest an alternative...

Example:
Where we are moving to there are 4 entrances to the area. At each of those intersections there are live feed cameras monitoring the entry/exit/both ways. This is then monitored off site by a security company that also services most residents in the area. Security and residents association(for cameras) are R449 per month combined. Security company has dedicated vehicle in area that residents can contact either through control room or directly. Example given to me if a woman returns late at night she can request can meets her at home. 10min minimum required. The gaurd will then see she enters her property safely before he continues patrol. Etc, etc, etc.

That is then under 10 cameras for the whole area servicing hundreds of homes. Further should you wish that the security company monitor cameras inside your home the set up and monthly costs are for your pocket. (it will then run off your cap(if you have) and the line speed you pay for first before affecting your neighbours.)
 
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isie

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Possibly. Will depend on bandwidth capacity in the area, how much the residents use(number of residents and their internet habbits can affect it) at what time, and how much the cameras need to transmit signal. Number of cameras will also could a differrence.

That's what I thought tks Venomous.

Residents have been polled but I'm thinking if 30/40 cameras in the area are transmitting 24/7 it has to impact our speeds.


but, but I thought that did happen - congestion and all that?

technically ya , 50 cameras 24/7 but would be like 10 houses doing the same with 5 cameras if that makes sense.
highly doubt it will affect users significantly - but if it did Vuma would have to increase the areas capacity.
They did this with us - webafrica sponsored a few cameras and set up - and the residence association has been buying and adding cameras as when they have funds - i haven't noticed any issues with our network with the additional cameras coming up.
 

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What kind of lame fibre network would that have to be if my 16 HD cameras don't even impact my 100mpbs LAN...
 

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Proper IP cameras encode the stream in H264. 30 cameras shouldn't have much of an impact unless the network is already close to being oversubscribed.
 

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30 cameras might be a bit much.


Maybe suggest an alternative...

Example:
Where we are moving to there are 4 entrances to the area. At each of those intersections there are live feed cameras monitoring the entry/exit/both ways. This is then monitored off site by a security company that also services most residents in the area. Security and residents association(for cameras) are R449 per month combined. Security company has dedicated vehicle in area that residents can contact either through control room or directly. Example given to me if a woman returns late at night she can request can meets her at home. 10min minimum required. The gaurd will then see she enters her property safely before he continues patrol. Etc, etc, etc.

That is then under 10 cameras for the whole area servicing hundreds of homes. Further should you wish that the security company monitor cameras inside your home the set up and monthly costs are for your pocket. (it will then run off your cap(if you have) and the line speed you pay for first before affecting your neighbours.)

Thanks for the info about number and placement of cameras. Street cameras apparently learn registration numbers and alert when suspect vehicles enter the area (what criminal keeps the same reg number?) but if they're carefully situated they would help. We're already paying almost R1000.00 p.m. :( and cameras would add to that.

The security company offer to wait at your gate if you ask them to and have 3 dedicated vehicles in the area but somehow crime still happens. Their response time is usually 2/3 minutes but they didn't arrive when a resident was accosted inside his house recently by 4 armed men who climbed over his palisade fence.

Local break-ins have all been by pedestrians. Security persons are not allowed to accost them - that seems to be the job of local police.

The area is RELATIVELY safe (if you can say that in Johannesburg) but as a group we're keen to up security.
 

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Proper IP cameras encode the stream in H264. 30 cameras shouldn't have much of an impact unless the network is already close to being oversubscribed.

Good info Messugga tks. Fairland is an old area so the network should be clear.
 

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60 camera's [MENTION=31061]1080[/MENTION]P never gone over 20Mbps, so no need to worry, will have zero impact on your home internet.
 

maumau

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technically ya , 50 cameras 24/7 but would be like 10 houses doing the same with 5 cameras if that makes sense.
highly doubt it will affect users significantly - but if it did Vuma would have to increase the areas capacity.
They did this with us - webafrica sponsored a few cameras and set up - and the residence association has been buying and adding cameras as when they have funds - i haven't noticed any issues with our network with the additional cameras coming up.

Ja, that makes sense - puts it into perspective.


What kind of lame fibre network would that have to be if my 16 HD cameras don't even impact my 100mpbs LAN...

hmmmm, that's encouraging.
 

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Just sniffed our office security cams - about x25 1080p streaming to a central server.
12.5 mb/s avg over an hour - It shouldn't impact your area at all.
 

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Yeah I worked on a project where we had over 300fhd cameras pumping data through 24/7 and that was over a 100mbps network
 

maumau

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Just sniffed our office security cams - about x25 1080p streaming to a central server.
12.5 mb/s avg over an hour - It shouldn't impact your area at all.

Oh good, wouldn't want to encourage a project that would stop me from streaming :)
 
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