Will the priests ever be arrested ?

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Was watching Sky News for a bit last night, and there was a 'round-table' panel discussing the Pope's visit to the UK. Yet again, I heard people discussing all the problems in the Catholic Church without mention as to why, across the world, these paedophiles are getting away 'with murder'. :twisted:

This thread below seemed to only have one (additional) post, but I'd think it's important enough to carry on with this theme & ask why these priests aren't rounded-up wherever they're based & dealt with - are police forces / the FBI (in the US) suddenly too scared when it comes to matters within religion?

If this were only a single paedophile, they'd likely be 'named & shamed' , serve a lengthy sentence & people within their community would be informed if & when they were let out of jail for child protection etc.

What am I missing here, or is this just another example of how this world is being run ? (into the ground).


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BayCityRoller said:
Yet again, I heard people discussing all the problems in the Catholic Church without mention as to why, across the world, these paedophiles are getting away 'with murder'. :twisted:
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Lol, they had a story about a priest on tv the other day that was a IRA terrorist :D
 
Surely it is not up to the Church or the Priests to decide if they are going to be arrested?

It is up to the police to decide if they will arrest them.

So the question is.... Will the police ever arrest the priests?


... or am I missing something here? :confused:
 
Yes, there are some bad bad priests.

We Catholics are very grateful that this filth is being cleaned out of the Church. Good riddance to them! Apart from their moral filth, almost to a man these bad priests and bishops are theological 'liberals' who've also polluted the faith with their unorthodoxy. Their actions are of course in gross violation of all Catholic moral teaching and Canon Law. Their grave moral failures bespeak grave theological and pastoral failures, and they have caused great damage not just to their sexual victims but also to the gospel. Just take Cardinal Danneels, the recently ousted primate of Belgium, and his paedophile buddy Bishop Vangheluwe ... little wonder Dante (the great Catholic poet) said hell was paved with the skulls of bishops. They betrayed the innocent they abused and mis-directed, they betrayed their vocations as priests (which is to selflessly serve), they betrayed the Church, and of course they betrayed Christ.

We are grateful to the media for exposing this ugliness. This is exactly what Benedict XVI has said over and over and over again.
But anti-Catholic bigots want to pin the coverups on the Pope, or the wider Church. We hear it incessantly from the Usual Suspects in the secular progressive media.
Over a billion Catholics worldwide know this is simply not true.
And so do many former anti-Catholics ... despite these awful scandals, thousands and thousands of devout and faithful evangelicals, pentecostals, anglicans and and other assorted protestants are streaming into the Church, because she is the True Bride of Christ.

We also know that 99% of our priests are very very good men who have given up everything for the service of Almighty God, denying themselves so that they can live for Christ. They have staked their entire lilves, including their own happiness in this world, on the reality of the world to come. Now you might not agree that there is a God or a next world, but anyone can see this takes immense faith and courage.

Bear in mind that the overwhelming majority of abuse cases are not strictly paedophilia (which is sexual abuse of a pre-pubescent), but rather homosexual ephebophilia (ie with boys who have reached or passed puberty but are under 18).

Also, almost all the abuse cases now coming out are from 20 or more years ago. The cleanout already began under John Paul II, with Cardinal Ratzinger as the Vatican's main clean-up man. (You might not know the finer points of Catholic ecclesiology, but the Pope is not CEO of the bishops, he is a peer bishop with limited jurisdiction over bishops worldwide, a 'first among equals'.)

Another thing: a quick search will show you that the rate of paedophilila in other churches, mosques, synagogues, secular and state schools, clubs and societies is probably at least as high if not higher. And about 70-80% (studies vary) of paeophiles are in families, abusing family members and relatives. This is not an excuse, just simply a fact that paedophilia is a social problem, not just a Catholic problem. It has absolutely nothing to do with priestly celibacy (other than that priests forgo sexual relations, which the abuers failed to observe, in total disregard of the vows they freely made to God).

As I said, we are grateful that life for paedophiles in the Catholic priesthood is becoming intolerable. No doubt there's more to be exposed and expelled, and faithful Catholics around the world eagerly support this cleanout.
 
yet another one, hinting that because other systems do it, the churches doing does not matter that much. You guys are like Islam and terrorists, Mormons and Gays. No wonder people dislike your group.
 
Another question is when will those who shielded and protect the Catholics paedophiles be arrested? See
 
Balstrome said:
yet another one, hinting that because other systems do it, the churches doing does not matter that much. You guys are like Islam and terrorists, Mormons and Gays. No wonder people dislike your group.
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You obviously can't parse a sentence (maybe English isn't your first language?). The very opposite is quite clear from my post. There's no hint or excuse that it's OK because it happens elsewhere. Absolutely not. It is not. As I made quite clear above.
 
Watch the episode of "the vatican" on Penn and Teller's Bullsh*t.

I remember they mentioned that the vatican has some documentation or something pardoning all catholic priests if they were ever caught.

I'll watch it tonight again and come back with a better answer.

Maybe check youtube for this episode?
 
It seems as its always Politicians & Priests that get away with crime civilians would normally get locked up for
I'm sure there are a lot of others as well.. but its almost factual for these two :(
 
Arthur said:
You obviously can't parse a sentence (maybe English isn't your first language?). The very opposite is quite clear from my post. There's no hint or excuse that it's OK because it happens elsewhere. Absolutely not. It is not. As I made quite clear above.
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I tend to agree with you ;)
 
Osiris85 said:
Watch the episode of "the vatican" on Penn and Teller's Bullsh*t.

I remember they mentioned that the vatican has some documentation or something pardoning all catholic priests if they were ever caught.
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Oh puhleeez. What absolute unmitigated and meretricious rot. The nonsense written about the Church is exceeded only by that written about its Lord, Christ himself.
 
Arthur said:
You obviously can't parse a sentence (maybe English isn't your first language?). The very opposite is quite clear from my post. There's no hint or excuse that it's OK because it happens elsewhere. Absolutely not. It is not. As I made quite clear above.
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Another thing: a quick search will show you that the rate of paedophilila in other churches, mosques, synagogues, secular and state schools, clubs and societies is probably at least as high if not higher. And about 70-80% (studies vary) of paeophiles are in families, abusing family members and relatives. This is not an excuse, just simply a fact that paedophilia is a social problem, not just a Catholic problem.
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That seems to lend that thought. Looking for evidence that others do the same thing.
 
Balstrome said:
That seems to lend that thought. Looking for evidence that others do the same thing.
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Here is the sentence in my post above: "This is not an excuse, just simply a fact that paedophilia is a social problem, not just a Catholic problem." The it happens everywhere point is in answer to those who say or think paedophilia is somehow more prevalent in Catholic priests because of the celibacy rule. That is all. There is no excuplation or excuse or mitigation of guilt or defence. This is ugly stuff, and I said it often and plainly, and execrate these deeds and their perpetrators. If you are confused, read the post again.
 
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Just having that section in your post gives credit to the idea. It's a red flag, you should not wave it around, unless you want to be gored, like the pope is getting.
 
Thanks for all the comments.

What I've put in bold, below, are exactly the types of questions I was asking. In other words, we're on the 'same page'.

I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror (if I was the Pope, let alone go on a highly publicised 4-day tour of the UK), if I knew that for decades these out & out crimes were committed against helpless kids, in a religious organisation I was now the head of.

Garyvdh said:
Surely it is not up to the Church or the Priests to decide if they are going to be arrested? It is up to the police to decide if they will arrest them. So the question is.... Will the police ever arrest the priests? ... or am I missing something here? :confused:
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Jab said:
Another question is when will those who shielded and protect the Catholics paedophiles be arrested? See
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Wasn't the pope involved in covering up some of these abuses? Isn't that an obstruction of justice - or are senior clergy above the law?

The more level-headed catholics are willing to admit there are serious issues, but apparently it's hands-off when the pope's name comes up.
 
SiriS said:
Wasn't the pope involved in covering up some of these abuses? Isn't that an obstruction of justice - or are senior clergy above the law?

The more level-headed catholics are willing to admit there are serious issues, but apparently it's hands-off when the pope's name comes up.
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Was that a pun ? :D
 
All those law breakers & those protecting them should be thrown away for a LONG time.
 
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