Windows 11 TPM Module required

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Hi guys,

Not sure if this is the right thread - please move/ignore if this is the case?

I have a ASUS ROG Strix h370-f motherboard (late 2018) - this model motherboard shipped without a TPM module (apparently sold separately) - I simply cannot find said module to buy (local nor via Amazon) - any ideas/sugestions?
 
TPM module prices are apparently skyrocketing
 
NodeCore said:
Hi guys,

Not sure if this is the right thread - please move/ignore if this is the case?

I have a ASUS ROG Strix h370-f motherboard (late 2018) - this model motherboard shipped without a TPM module (apparently sold separately) - I simply cannot find said module to buy (local nor via Amazon) - any ideas/sugestions?
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Check for supply any time in the next few years, it doesn't need to be now.
 
What CPU do you have? It's quite possible and likely that your recent CPU supports fTPM (firmware TPM), which is enabled in UEFI. If so, you don't need a discrete TPM chip, which in any case is only TPM 1.2, which is not adequate for Win11. There's no TPM 2.0 chip/module.
 
Arthur said:
What CPU do you have? It's quite possible and likely that your recent CPU supports fTPM (firmware TPM), which is enabled in UEFI. If so, you don't need a discrete TPM chip, which in any case is only TPM 1.2, which is not adequate for Win11. There's no TPM 2.0 chip/module.
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i7 8700K

Apologies if my post seemed vague - not very clued up - I draw pictures for a living, literally :)
 
NodeCore said:
i7 8700K

Apologies if my post seemed vague - not very clued up - I draw pictures for a living, literally :)
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CPU has built-in support.

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On an Asus mobo, "On ASUS motherboards, you can find the option under Advanced/PCH-FW. You can verify if you have a TPM chip (after enabling it) by running tpm.msc"
IF you are on AMD! There seems to be an equivalent technology called fTPM.
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/o75g36
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Arthur said:
What CPU do you have? It's quite possible and likely that your recent CPU supports fTPM (firmware TPM), which is enabled in UEFI. If so, you don't need a discrete TPM chip, which in any case is only TPM 1.2, which is not adequate for Win11. There's no TPM 2.0 chip/module.
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According to the Linus video I shared TPM 1.2 would be the requirement for built PCs. OEM PCs/Laptops will however require TPM 2.0
 
Just a side note for those testing this out and might be gaming online, I was watching a levelcap video and he mentioned that the insider build is setting off anti cheat software in games.

In COD you get shadow banned and get lobbied with other hackers.
In Fortnite you could get an out right ban from epic.

Other games with anti cheat software would need to be researched etc

I can't confirm this myself so I guess it's hearsay at the moment but proceed with caution

Edit:
Found the vid in question :
 
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Select [PTT] for 'TPM Device Selection' under under 'Advanced->PCH-FW Configuration'
 
I saw this :

TPM 2.0 was only released in 2019, suggesting that PCs made prior to that year may be incompatible with Windows 11

Does the TPM module sit on the CPU, or MB, or both ?

I think this will stall new PC purchases right now until it's all sorted . I certainly would be worried to buy something now
 
Johnatan56 said:
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Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor (12M Cache, up to 4.70 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor (12M Cache, up to 4.70 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.
ark.intel.com ark.intel.com
CPU has built-in support.

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You, and that Reddit thread, are right but for the wrong reason.

Intel TXT is the ability to use virtualisation and an available TPM which means that it can use, among other things, Intel PTT. Intel PTT is the actual thing that has the fTPM.
Intel systems have the TPM built into the motherboard chipset, not the CPU like Ryzen.

All Intel motherboards newer than ~2015 (H110 chipset) have Intel PTT.
 
Dolby said:
I saw this :

TPM 2.0 was only released in 2019, suggesting that PCs made prior to that year may be incompatible with Windows 11

Does the TPM module sit on the CPU, or MB, or both ?

I think this will stall new PC purchases right now until it's all sorted . I certainly would be worried to buy something now
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If you have a physical TPM key, then it's a little chiplet connected to the motherboard. Laptops might have an integrated piece of dedicated silicon, I'm not sure.

If you have an fTPM (firmware-based) then:
- on AMD Ryzen systems it's built into the CPU itself integrated with AMD PSP. I don't know about AMD systems prior to Ryzen.
- on Intel systems it's built into motherboard chipsets newer than 2015 (H110 and newer). They have Intel PTT which contains the fTPM.
 
Nod said:
According to the Linus video I shared TPM 1.2 would be the requirement for built PCs. OEM PCs/Laptops will however require TPM 2.0
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This makes no sense.... htf will the installer differentiate?
 
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