Windows Surface vs MacBook Air

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This popped up on my random feed, never heard of the guy before but it intrigued me purely because I figured this is probably the most like for like comparison hardware and price wise one can expect because both are ARM-processor machines.


The fact he immediately mentions needing to restart 6 times just to get going for the first time after updates and setup and what not pretty much summed up exactly the modern Windows experience for me and why it’s just so bad compared to MacOS.

The multiple fails along the way just cement for me why I never ever want to daily drive a Windows machine ever again.

When I recently installed Windows 11 on a MacBook (Intel) I thought it was just the hack job nature of it that made it such a poor experience, but to see it actually being worse in Microsoft’s own device is just shocking.

And I don’t even hate Microsoft, I’m a big Xbox fan, but this is simply a terrible user experience all round and yet people just accept it as the norm and shuffle along, often throwing shade at Apple while never having tried it.

Hardware wise, it does seem pretty solid and especially so considering the price point is the same. Screens are hard to compare without seeing them for myself but as always I expect the Apple to have better colour accuracy out of the box. Touchpads one can hope the Surface can compare but we know the Apple is pure Magic™️. The fact scrolling dies at random in the video is just classic Windows things.

Watching this from a support perspective I just ask myself why you would give the Windows machine, knowing you are opening yourself up for so many issues.

Being fairly open minded I do check out Windows again every so often, and the odd Linux distro in between but seeing it side by side like this it doesn’t do anything to endear me.

And yes before anyone says games…nobody is going to do hardcore gaming on a Surface, and likely the same type of games you get on the Mac anyway if you are.

In the interest of fairness I would have done the browser tests in Edge on both devices as I feel it’s almost unfair to use the highly optimised Safari.

The touchscreen might be a selling point for some and granted I haven’t used touch on Windows 11 but I’ve always found it pretty useless and terrible on Windows.
 
Also watched that. Laughed way too hard when Windows took 30 minutes to get to the desktop. Granted if you buy a laptop from Flashgear it'll be set up already.
 
i feel his pain BUT with Dells bloatware and given that i have an eighth gen i7 sometimes i wait freaking an hour before the updates allow my laptop to even switch on - so 30 minutes is superfast compared to the cr@pola that i have :rolleyes: a combination of Dell and Windows is ten times worse than he experienced
 
They both are excessively overpriced. Windows is rubbish. That leaves you with one option to throw money at. M4 is a no brianer in that format.

Beg to differ.

These are the best value options out there.

Nothing overpriced at all.
 
i feel his pain BUT with Dells bloatware and given that i have an eighth gen i7 sometimes i wait freaking an hour before the updates allow my laptop to even switch on - so 30 minutes is superfast compared to the cr@pola that i have :rolleyes: a combination of Dell and Windows is ten times worse than he experienced
I took people advice on here and Uninstaller the Dell software, just keeping the sound drivers. Windows now push all the updates and even gives me the BIOS updates.
 
Although I personally prefer the M4 as personal laptop, however the Surface laptop X Elite CPU is not too shabby as office machine, I have tested the 12 Core 1TB SSD 32GB ram , very responsive in ArcGIS, AutoCaD, and DevOp tools and running LLMs local on device so it all depends on your workloads and how your spec it.
 
This popped up on my random feed, never heard of the guy before but it intrigued me purely because I figured this is probably the most like for like comparison hardware and price wise one can expect because both are ARM-processor machines.


The fact he immediately mentions needing to restart 6 times just to get going for the first time after updates and setup and what not pretty much summed up exactly the modern Windows experience for me and why it’s just so bad compared to MacOS.

The multiple fails along the way just cement for me why I never ever want to daily drive a Windows machine ever again.

When I recently installed Windows 11 on a MacBook (Intel) I thought it was just the hack job nature of it that made it such a poor experience, but to see it actually being worse in Microsoft’s own device is just shocking.

And I don’t even hate Microsoft, I’m a big Xbox fan, but this is simply a terrible user experience all round and yet people just accept it as the norm and shuffle along, often throwing shade at Apple while never having tried it.

Hardware wise, it does seem pretty solid and especially so considering the price point is the same. Screens are hard to compare without seeing them for myself but as always I expect the Apple to have better colour accuracy out of the box. Touchpads one can hope the Surface can compare but we know the Apple is pure Magic™️. The fact scrolling dies at random in the video is just classic Windows things.

Watching this from a support perspective I just ask myself why you would give the Windows machine, knowing you are opening yourself up for so many issues.

Being fairly open minded I do check out Windows again every so often, and the odd Linux distro in between but seeing it side by side like this it doesn’t do anything to endear me.

And yes before anyone says games…nobody is going to do hardcore gaming on a Surface, and likely the same type of games you get on the Mac anyway if you are.

In the interest of fairness I would have done the browser tests in Edge on both devices as I feel it’s almost unfair to use the highly optimised Safari.

The touchscreen might be a selling point for some and granted I haven’t used touch on Windows 11 but I’ve always found it pretty useless and terrible on Windows.
Moerse long video. What is the battery life comparison?
 
I took people advice on here and Uninstaller the Dell software, just keeping the sound drivers. Windows now push all the updates and even gives me the BIOS updates.

yep - in the process of doing that ...... long overdue i might add
 
FStoppers are pretty known in the photography world, great channel.

He switched to Mac a few years ago and made a video about it, I remember watching it back then:
 
NGL never heard of this bloke before. No recommendations even.

Maybe I'll give some of his vids a flutter.

 
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