Wish Networks

Captain Morgan

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I'm trying to assist a family member in Stellenbosch with getting a wireless internet service.

Wish Networks comes highly recommended by other people in Stellenbosch, however I'm struggling to get hold of them.

All contact numbers are just ringing and they do not respond to e-mails.

Contact numbers I've tried:

087 805 7480
021 887 5660
082 935 7097
084 458 4558
073 772 1223

Can anyone confirm whether Wish Networks are still in business, and if so, how to contact them? Do they have a rep here on the forums? :confused:
 
Hi Captain Morgan

Have you managed to get hold of anyone at Wish, or not yet?

Things are going quite okay, thank you for asking.

Your message makes us sound terrible - if we really are that terrible I'd love to hear your advice on how we can improve!

Regards
 
Hi Captain Morgan

Have you managed to get hold of anyone at Wish, or not yet?

Things are going quite okay, thank you for asking.

Your message makes us sound terrible - if we really are that terrible I'd love to hear your advice on how we can improve!

Regards

Maybe give him contact details?
 
Hi Captain Morgan

Have you managed to get hold of anyone at Wish, or not yet?

Things are going quite okay, thank you for asking.

Your message makes us sound terrible - if we really are that terrible I'd love to hear your advice on how we can improve!

Regards

Hi,

Please provide me with the contact details of the owner / manager. A direct cellphone number would be great, as I don't feel like explaining myself over and over again to call-centre agents.
 
Contact details on WAPA:

http://www.wapa.org.za/wish

Office: 087 805 7480 / 021 887 5660
SMS: 084 458 4558 / 073 772 1223
Skype: Wish_Support / Wish_Support2 / Wish_Reception / Wish_Sales
Email: [email protected] / [email protected] / [email protected] / [email protected]

Contact details on website:

http://www.wish.org.za/index.php?page=contact

Tel:
087 805 7480 (Office)
021 887 5660 (Office/Fax)
082 935 7097 (A/h SMS)
084 458 4558 (A/h SMS)
073 772 1223 (A/h SMS)

Email:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Skype:
wish_support
wish_support2
wish_support3

Address
#10 Merriman Place
2 Merriman Ave
(Corner of Merriman and Bird Street)
Stellenbosch
7600

Hours:
Weekdays
8am - 6pm
Saturdays
9am - 1pm
(Only first and last Saturday of the month)

Signup... http://www.wish.org.za/index.php?page=signup

Never used them... WISPS grows on trees in Stellies.

Sneeubal... Interworks... etc. etc. etc. Even us, but we do not do residential.
 
Hi Captain Morgan

Have you managed to get hold of anyone at Wish, or not yet?

Things are going quite okay, thank you for asking.

Your message makes us sound terrible - if we really are that terrible I'd love to hear your advice on how we can improve!

Regards

Is this guy a rep? Cause this is the worst response from a rep I have ever seen.
 
Contact details on WAPA:

http://www.wapa.org.za/wish

Office: 087 805 7480 / 021 887 5660
SMS: 084 458 4558 / 073 772 1223
Skype: Wish_Support / Wish_Support2 / Wish_Reception / Wish_Sales
Email: [email protected] / [email protected] / [email protected] / [email protected]

Contact details on website:

http://www.wish.org.za/index.php?page=contact

Tel:
087 805 7480 (Office)
021 887 5660 (Office/Fax)
082 935 7097 (A/h SMS)
084 458 4558 (A/h SMS)
073 772 1223 (A/h SMS)

Thanks, I've tried all those numbers yesterday, without success.

I'm beginning to suspect that they do not answer "private numbers" for some reason, as the number on all outbound calls at my office are restricted (the contact number is not displayed when we phone out from the office).

I'll wait for the contact details of the owner/manager. Does anybody know who the owner is? I wonder whether he is even aware of the calls that's going unanswered?
 
Hi Guys... Sorry I didn't respond, all the contact details are correct and I'm sure if you visited us, mailed us or tried a few more times, you would've gotten an answer.

Note that we don't put you through to a special line where you can listen to annoying music while incurring a huge phone bill... the phone will ring and we will either answer or we won't. If we don't it is because everyone is busy, so try again later or send us an email at [email protected] or contact us via our website:

Contact details and map
http://www.wish.org.za/index.php?page=contact

Sign-up page with general pricing
http://www.wish.org.za/index.php?page=signup

Support page
http://www.wish.org.za/index.php?page=support

Please note that we are not a mobile operator or a mobile operator call center. As such, we can only take 3 calls at a time... we are painstakenly exploring ways to increase this... but most of those options involves us paying a lot more for our phones, which you will ultimately have to pay for in your subscriptions... So always consider the fact that you get what you pay for... and that with us you are not paying for any bells and whistles, just fast internet.

You are not paying for fancy signage on our building or cars, you are not paying for debt collectors, because we don't have or need any, because all our services are pre-paid. You pay, you get service. You don't pay, you don't get service. Easy. Also, you are not paying fat directors salaries, because the directors are people of modest means. This is our first business, so it is a learning experience, but we have just gone from strength to strength since we started in 2004. We try to do everything ourselves, so the bells and whistles are our own handiwork and as such take time.

You are not paying for expensive marketing campaigns either. The vast majority of our customers come to us because of word of mouth, because we believe that a good service should be the only marketing you need.

There are areas where we do not have solid coverage, and there are areas where our network breaks more often than in others... and if we tell you this *before* you sign up, which we will always do, if we know this to be the case, please do not expect miracles unless you are willing and able to spend a little money if needed, eg. buy an antenna - which we will even buy back from you if it turns out not to work well enough!

We try to expand our coverage as much as possible where it is spotty, but it is very difficult to keep track of without you politely informing us so and giving us enough time to make a recommendation and enough feedback so we know that the problem is solved for good.

Sometimes all we need to do is to reconfigure our equipment... or if we're lucky, update the software on your computer. What goes wrong most often? A power supply breaks, or an antenna box leaks... We are usually willing to try a lot of things before recommending you spend money to buy a repeater antenna, etc... and even sometimes that doesn't work, in which case we will tell you what other options you have and what they will cost, including which mobile operator has the best coverage and deal at the time.

Please note that the cell numbers are only for SMSes. They are often manned by the directors themselves, and only after hours.
 
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I'm beginning to suspect that they do not answer "private numbers" for some reason, as the number on all outbound calls at my office are restricted (the contact number is not displayed when we phone out from the office).

I personally do not take calls from unknown numbers as these are 9 out of 10 times from tele-marketers whom I really can not afford to entertain.

But the years of being the first point of contact for the whole network, really wore me down. If you think about it, it's pretty unnatural, being able to be summoned at a moments notice, by just about anyone. Yes, a business is different, but that is why we have an office number.

My feeling is that if you take the time to email me, I'll take the time to respond. But that said, there are usually around 200 unread emails in my inbox at any one point, and I can almost never seem to get ahead, and it can easily take more than a week... But at least then we get to have everything in writing. Almost like the bitcoin blockchain. And at least we have an [email protected] email which is manned by 6 people and not just one.

I'll wait for the contact details of the owner/manager. Does anybody know who the owner is? I wonder whether he is even aware of the calls that's going unanswered?

I'm aware of a certain percentage of calls going unanswered, yes... but at least the people phoning aren't paying to stay on hold! :)

I'd like to turn our network into a business where every customer is an equal owner... In fact, I tried this. I tried to start a WUG, but nobody was interested... then I started selling internet, and suddenly I could barely keep up. So granted, not all customers would want this, or would understand the virtue in it... but perhaps that was just an idea before its time.

Also, perhaps if we were too busy to take your call, or it was too big an issue for you, you would have been better off looking for someone better than us! For me, I'm happy to ascribe it to nature's ultimate self-correcting algorithm.

But I appreciate the concern!
 
Had Wish, will never go back. Website is down BTW Wish.

Yes, thanks. We had a lot of issues with our website, because we had to do everything ourselves and learnt the hard way. Thankfully it didn't affect our clients... only leads for new clients. Luckily we sell Wi-Fi and Fiber internet, and not websites, and the two services are quite separate if you look at the mechanics.

PS Never say never. :)
 
Maybe give him contact details?

The details he has are perfect... But I suspect he tried calling the SMS or Fax lines.

But yes, in retrospect, that was a pretty lame response from me. Maybe more people will complain and I'll get a chance to refine my skills...
 
Tsk Tsk .. dagelf is actually a great guy, he's just a technical (a good thing). Don't give him so much ***!

His website lists an sms (try sending one), if he elects to not answer "secret number" so be it, your probably the first person not selling insurance. I also did not see one mention of sending an email.

C - you tried a WUG, tell me more, I am still trying to piece together the WUG divide (much like PTA) that happened after my JHB stint.
 
...I'm sure if you visited us, mailed us or tried a few more times, you would've gotten an answer....
...we will either answer or we won't. If we don't it is because everyone is busy, so try again later or send us an email...
... but most of those options involves us paying a lot more for our phones...
This is our first business, so it is a learning experience....

Just came across this thread. I've never heard of Wish Networks but I can tell you this, your comments might seem smart and wise to you but for me as a potential client it smacks of arrogance.

As said, I do not know you guys but I will definitely never do business with your company and will not recommend you to anybody either.

Sorry for the rant but I have not read remarks from a company rep containing such arrogance in a long time
 
Just came across this thread. I've never heard of Wish Networks but I can tell you this, your comments might seem smart and wise to you but for me as a potential client it smacks of arrogance.

As said, I do not know you guys but I will definitely never do business with your company and will not recommend you to anybody either.

Sorry for the rant but I have not read remarks from a company rep containing such arrogance in a long time

Good thing we sell internet, so if you are reading this, you are probably already a happy customer and you don't have to base your decision on your what you half-read on some forum... or you don't need our services. (Now, and only now do you have a license to call me arrogant! Or perhaps more aptly, confident.)

We do our best and I'm telling it like it is. To you it may appear arrogant. Someone else might be intrigued by our openness and willingness to tell you how things really are... Eg. that we don't have a call center with 20 people sitting in eager anticipation, 24/7/365, just to take your call. and that we don't have unlimited resources, even though we may create that impression, much of the time, even after telling you that we are only 3 people taking calls... and that during at least one week of the year, at least half our calls go unanswered. Talk about potential, we must definitely make a plan... Hmmm... to borrow money or to carry on growing organically?... Thankfully we don't think like that anymore... We won't have to! In fact, you don't even need to know we exist, you can just sign yourself up! Joy! (And consequently bad-mouth us if you run into trouble and are too lazy to ask and wait for help... but who can blame you, you're spoilt for choice, right?!) (And again, sorry to the handful of customers who we really couldn't help... we were just not smart enough, yet. So much to learn! So much to grow! So much to code! So much to pay!)

I always thought that companies are too afraid to share their greatest secrets and weaknesses out of fear of competition. But perhaps you're right, perhaps it's just the way things are because they know that their potential customers are genuinely not interested.

In which case... Isn't it ironic that we've become so conditioned to PR whitewash, that we are annoyed when confronted with something refreshingly different?

...Say, for example... instead of "some rep" on a power trip,you have the guy next door, who couldn't afford internet (and neither could you) - and he figured out a way to get it faster and cheaper than anyone else (and did it well enough so that several of the big, rich guys tried to compete with him and failed...) ...fast forward several years and several thousand customers, and he's here, astonished by what he has seen, learned, and found out... and keen to share it all, with you, no secrets!!! True internet style!

He happens to believe that it is important that you consider what you spend your money on... and where that money goes after you spend it. What are you really paying for? Are you paying for Vodacom putting up a tower that costs more than our entire network, right next to MTN who did the same, right next to Cell C who did the same? (A tower that can serve, maybe 300 concurrent customers, for the same amount of money that we can serve 10 000?!) ...Have any of them ever once considered that perhaps if they all figured out how to share, we would all be able to communicate for a lot less? Oh that's right... the rich kids' parents never had time to teach them that... Now they're all taking turns digging up the same roads putting in the same redundant fiber. Way to go! Guess who pays? No, not the bank. Not the investors. YOU AND ME.

...There was a time that this was just an internet forum, you know! Not a customer support line manned by "reps".

And Bravo. Nothing should be swept under the carpet. Show the world: Nobody is perfect. Or perfectly understood. But please... talk about it! And don't blame the government. Stand up and help. Help them reduce your taxes, not increase it!

And I do appreciate you not shying away from sharing your first impression. You really made me think.
 
forget about wish try snowball

Snowball has much wider coverage than us, and much more staff than us. But we cover areas that they can't.

But once again... based on what do you judge a company?

Based on how friendly they talk to you over the phone? Based on how pretty the pictures are on their website? Or based on the actual service you're getting in relation to what you pay? Based on the person who you happened to catch on a bad day? Based on the broken antenna that's the fault of somebody who messed up in China, and now you have to wait several hours for us to replace it at our own expense, oh no worst case scenario, everybody is out of stock, even if it just happened once, it happened to you, when you left your online exam to the last minute, and no free internet at our office is not good enough, you really just need to tell the world: That company is so .... !!!!

...And if you're getting a good service, does it mean that the company is really that great? Or does it just mean that they have good service in your area? What about if the company you love has good service where you live, but bad service somewhere else? Or vice versa?

Oh, here's my favourite: based on the fact that all your friends feel the same!

It's amazing. People will generally just react the way you want them to. Ask them if something is bad, and they are more likely to agree. Ask them if something is good, and they will also more likely agree. Unless they have a really strong opinion. And they usually have the strongest opinion if they stay next door to you, are affected by the same problems as you and have expended the same amount of effort venting to you, rather than to us about it!

Do you know what I do when I approach a new company? I ask them who their competitors are, and what makes them better.

And guess what else! If someone can do what I do both cheaper and better, isn't it better that they do? Why should I waste time and resources doing something that I'm not the best at!?
 
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You guys installed network equipment at our block of flats not too long ago and I decided to check out your offerings. Thank god I came across this thread.

Sorry mate, but if this is your attitude then I'd rather not do business with you. Providing a good service and not being smug and arrogant is not mutually exclusive. Your attitude is rotten.
 
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