Working on a public holiday

blaaislaai

blaaislaai

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I want to clear something up.

Lets for example I work on a public holiday, the law says I should get double my wages.
What If I only work till 13:00, am I still entitled to dubble pay?

In my case we get to have a full day off when working on a public holiday, but now I only got another halfday off.

Logic tells me that I am only entitled to another halfday, but would like to know if it shouldn't be a full day?

thanks
 
essentially its a swop... any time worked on a public holiday is essentially the same as time off (paid) on another day.

Half day on public holiday, you still got paid for that day (if you worked or not) so now they owe you the other half. This is time off on another day (still getting paid for it) so it equals out.
 
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IRG said:
essentially its a swop... any time worked on a public holiday is essentially the same as time off (paid) on another day.
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[-]I think what he is asking is : Should time worked on a public holiday not be double time off?[/-]
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IRG said:
essentially its a swop... any time worked on a public holiday is essentially the same as time off (paid) on another day.

Half day on public holiday, you still got paid for that day (if you worked or not) so now they owe you the other half. This is time off on another day (still getting paid for it) so it equals out.
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Huh? Pretty sure it's worth more than normal time.
Working normal overtime is the same as normal working hours off. Working on a public holiday translates into more than normal hours.

@blaaislaai

What is your normal contractual working week & hours? (Mon-Fri 8am-5pm etc etc)
 
ponder said:
Huh? Pretty sure it's worth more than normal time.
Working normal overtime is the same as normal working hours off. Working on a public holiday translates into more than normal hours.

@blaaislaai

What is your normal contractual working week & hours? (Mon-Fri 8am-5pm etc etc)
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Everyone is paid for public holidays ... hence one day is paid already. Double time for a public holiday means a normal days pay + an additional days pay. You get paid 1 so now you are entitled to another. If they give it back to you in time, its is not double that time...

If my rate is R100 per day and I work a public holiday, the company owes me R200. Most, if not all, companies would have already factored a public holiday into the payroll system So the employee would already be paid for the full day. This means they only owe the employee R100, and not R200. That will be the equivalent of a day off on full pay.

Understand ?

If the OP has received zero payment for the half day worked then he is entitled to double the time... but I doubt anyone would not pay the "normal" daily wage for a PH ... illegal!
 
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You get paid double for a public holiday or Sunday.

You can get:

double pay for the hours worked.
same amount of hours off as hours worked and normal pay for the hours worked
double hours off and no pay for the hours worked.

Depends on your boss.
 
IRG said:
Everyone is paid for public holidays ... hence one day is paid already. Double time for a public holiday means a normal days pay + an additional days pay. You get paid 1 so now you are entitled to another. If they give it back to you in time, its is not double that time...

If my rate is R100 per day and I work a public holiday, the company owes me R200. Most, if not all, companies would have already factored a public holiday into the payroll system So the employee would already be paid for the full day. This means they only owe the employee R100, and not R200. That will be the equivalent of a day off on full pay.

Understand ?
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Yes but don't necessarily agree. If my hourly rate was R100/hr and I worked 1 hour overtime on a public holiday I would get paid my normal salary + R200 at the end of the month (before tax obviously :D) or I could take 2hrs off in normal time. This is a real example.
 
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ponder said:
Huh? Pretty sure it's worth more than normal time.
Working normal overtime is the same as normal working hours off. Working on a public holiday translates into more than normal hours.

@blaaislaai

What is your normal contractual working week & hours? (Mon-Fri 8am-5pm etc etc)
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I work from 8 till 5 daily.
 
AstroTurf said:
You get paid double for a public holiday or Sunday.

You can get:

double pay for the hours worked.
same amount of hours off as hours worked and normal pay for the hours worked
double hours off and no pay for the hours worked.

Depends on your boss.
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This ^^

The depends on the boss part relates to him/her giving you time off or paying you.
 
ponder said:
So Monday to Sunday, in other words all seven days?

Then you should get paid double your normal hourly rate, get double the time off or half the time & money.
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Monday to friday, sorry

I contacted our HR and seems that if I only work halfday on a public holiday, then I am able to get another halfday off.. or the extra pay
 
We often have to work on Public holidays and we get a day and a half leave added to our total for working on that day.

I think it is a fair compromise, I get the day that I didn't take off back in the form of leave and an extra half a day on top of that.

Logic would say that if I only worked half the day I should get 0.75 days back in leave.
 
For saturdays its 1.5:1
Sundays and public holidays is 2:1

By Law

(changes if you are a shift worker).

That said, i don't get paid for public holidays, working from home or working over-time or over weekends.
 
ponder said:
Yes but don't necessarily agree. If my hourly rate was R100/hr and I worked 1 hour overtime on a public holiday I would get paid my normal salary + R200 at the end of the month (before tax obviously :D) or I could take 2hrs off in normal time. This is a real example.
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How can u expect to be paid 3 X for one day ? Law says double pay ... full stop...

Also you must look at the Snr Management threshold. If you earn more than a certain amount per annum you are considered Snr Management. Then Parts of the BCOE do not apply to you, and you may not have the right to claim overtime....
 
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IRG said:
Everyone is paid for public holidays ... hence one day is paid already. Double time for a public holiday means a normal days pay + an additional days pay. You get paid 1 so now you are entitled to another. If they give it back to you in time, its is not double that time...

If my rate is R100 per day and I work a public holiday, the company owes me R200. Most, if not all, companies would have already factored a public holiday into the payroll system So the employee would already be paid for the full day. This means they only owe the employee R100, and not R200. That will be the equivalent of a day off on full pay.

Understand ?

If the OP has received zero payment for the half day worked then he is entitled to double the time... but I doubt anyone would not pay the "normal" daily wage for a PH ... illegal!
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Interesting, what if you volunteered to work (after hours, as well as during off weekends and holidays) because there was work needed to be done?

Will you still be entitled to this overtime?

Secondly, will it matter if you are using some kind of clocking system or not really?

Kind Regards,
Tweak
 
IRG said:
How can u expect to be paid 3 X for one day ? Law says double pay ... full stop...
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It's not about me expecting anything, this is what actually happens.

If I did not work on that day I got paid, should I work on a public holiday I get double that seeing all the other staff not working get paid regardless.
 
ponder said:
It's not about me expecting anything, this is what actually happens.

If I did not work on that day I got paid, should I work on a public holiday I get double that seeing all the other staff not working get paid regardless.
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Well, the law is quite clear. Its double pay for a public holiday worked. Your colleagues only get 1 X for the day (but they didnt work it). You would get 2 X pay if you did work it. You do not get paid for the day and then another 2 X pay for working a public holiday. That is not what is stipulated by the BCOE, and if you have been compensated as such, the company is paying you more than you are entitled for a public holiday.

@Tweak... regardless of whether you volunteered or not, you are entitled to be payed for any hours actually worked. Remember, you may not be forced to work overtime. Unless you are Snr Management.
 
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