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Yirhu

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I matriculated in 2010 and studied mechanical engineering at Wits in 2011, which I passed first year without much trouble and failed second year miserably in 2012 so I unequivocally got academically excluded. There are no family problems at home to disturb me in academics and there isn't anything I can blame on my failure. My family didn't afford paying for university tuition so I got a bursary due to "academic merit" and financial need. I say "academic merit" because I only got two distinctions in maths and physical sciences both at 96% and the rest of my subjects were 6's(B's) and a 5(C) for English, and this is no way close to what most of my first year engineering peers got so it's hardly academic merit.

I worked manual labour in 2013 and decided that I would return to university in 2014 and work harder. In fact I did and I even got a bursary again, I got accepted at Stellenbosch university to study mechanical engineering, however they wouldn't recognise my previous first year modules I did at Wits since I got academically excluded so I had to start from first year. Again first year was not much trouble, in fact i did better this time around passing everything again. In second year I only passed 5 out of the 11 modules I did and repeated those I failed and only passing 3 and failing the other three the second time and some other third year modules. So naturally, I got academically excluded again in 2016. At this point in time one can see that I'm just a lazy, unmotivated young person whose had great opportunities, twice, but played with them.

The thing is, there's nothing I find remotely interesting except engineering, yes I do like maths and science but going back to university now scares me because I think I'll fail again so no more of that university thing. So I don't want to go back and waste time and most importantly money which should have helped other young people who did far more better than I did and would far more likely be successful at studying engineering than I have. But throughout my failed studies I have come to realise that I just don't have the academic capacity to study engineering, I may have the will and interest but the crucial part, academic ability, is missing. You see I do study hard but I just can never do this degree, let alone get beyond second year.

I have now fallen back to doing a trade, specifically millwright or turning & fitting as they are close to mechanical engineering. I have tried applying for apprenticeships but can't get any, so I've decided to go to college next trimester and start from N1 up until N3 and then apply again, I think this may increase my chances. I am a practically inclined person so I think going on this route won't be a problem at all. At this point I don't even want to entertain the idea of university of technology, I fear the same result will happen in fact I know my self enough that it will definitely happen.

My biggest problem in this is, is explaining what I have been doing for the past 6 years and 5 months if I were to go for an interview for a job or an apprenticeship. Telling your potential employer that you've failed twice at the same thing will not sit well nor will that you haven't been doing anything else. So I fear I will look like a stupid and unconcerned person with regards to my future. I have sent my resume to every grade 12 post out there, I've applied to most learnerships and apprenticeships, basic jobs in retail but no no avail.

If there's still nothing happening even after obtaining the national technical certificate(N3) which is equivalent to matric then I'll continue working in farms and construction work as a manual labourer until I've saved up enough to start a small business just for self sustenance.

If you were me, what would you do?
 

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Look, passing first year engineering math is nothing to be sneezed at. Even if you did not manage to get the degree you can show what you did pass and at least stand out from other people who just have a matric. I know a guy who passed first year engineering, ran out of study funds, and then managed to start at a bank's call centre with just that and has worked his way up a bit from there. So don't give up, keep looking.
 

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http://fundersandfounders.com/entrepreneurs-who-dropped-out/

You realized sitting behind books and regurgitating from them to pass exams wasn't for you. You're a hands on kind of person, not a bookworm. Perhaps you took the rest of the time to travel and educate yourself about the world. You found that engineering is not just what you enjoy doing, it's what you'd like to dedicate the rest of your life to now that you've explored alternative options.

You're ready to commit to a company and work your way up.
 

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why did you do manual labour if you are lazy?

Lazy people seek the easiest solutions, which is why I don't work anymore

perhaps you are misclassifying your laziness
 

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Also technicon may work out better for you if you get the chance. More practical but a very solid education.
 

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Man honestly I get you. It took me 7 years to complete my 3 year BSC degree (Software Engineering). Only managing by the hairs on my b***s to not get excluded. I only managed to finish my final 2 years with oversight from faculty and being registered as part-time student.

Either way, I have the degree and low and behold I do not do software Engineering... :crylaugh:

I suck at studying from a textbook and regurgitating facts like a parrot to pass. I got 90s for all my practical work and low 50s for all theoretical work (eventually).

Now I am not saying leave Engineering as a dream but give up on the degree. Work towards building up some experience and then figure out how you can use that experience to get where you want to be. And don't be ashamed of telling an employer you found studying from textbooks mind-numbingly boring and have been trying to find your way to do the things you love without a textbook degree but through hard work and experience. If you were lazy you would be at home sitting on a couch all day bumbing a lifestyle off someone else so this is just not true.
 

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So have you started at college yet ? You'll need your N3 end of day to write trade test. PM me, we're taking apprentices sometime this year and i'll submit your cv. And the thing about your last couple of years - I've never asked about that in interviews. If asked, there's ways around answering the question.
 

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Why do N1-N3? N3, from what I know, is equivalent to Matric. If you were allowed to study at University, you should start at N4 and go up to N6/Diploma. That alone should take you 3 blocks which is one year full time.
 

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So have you started at college yet ? You'll need your N3 end of day to write trade test. PM me, we're taking apprentices sometime this year and i'll submit your cv. And the thing about your last couple of years - I've never asked about that in interviews. If asked, there's ways around answering the question.

No I will be starting on the next trimester, that is from September to November.
 

HunterNW

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No I will be starting on the next trimester, that is from September to November.

Still welcome to send me your cv - have nothing to loose. Just spoke with the learner co ordinator, add for apprenticeships will be going out in the next month or so.
 

Yirhu

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Why do N1-N3? N3, from what I know, is equivalent to Matric. If you were allowed to study at University, you should start at N4 and go up to N6/Diploma. That alone should take you 3 blocks which is one year full time.

The TVET college I intend studying at told me that since I didn't go to a technical school I'll have to start from N1 which is equivalent to grade 10, and study until N3 which is as you said equivalent to matric. Then after that I'll have what is called a national technical certificate, which apparently doesn't necessarily grant one access to university like grade 12/matric does, since I'll be studying four subjects which is three short of matric subjects.
 

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Sounds BS. I also went to an academic high school and started off at N3. Guys who went to a technical highschool started with N4.
Sbtw, N3 was a breeze after matric :crylaugh:
 

Yirhu

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Still welcome to send me your cv - have nothing to loose. Just spoke with the learner co ordinator, add for apprenticeships will be going out in the next month or so.

Thanks and I appreciate it, as I have found out during my experience of applying through to companies that it's not easy finding a germ or rather a good candidate for an appie especially from uhh... the uhhmm... EE candidature spectrum which I unequivocally fall in. From a shortfall of with their technical education, I mean academic administration in most TVET colleges is hopeless if I'm honest, to little or no technical inclination and aptitude. All this I heard from grapevines.
 

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Sounds BS. I also went to an academic high school and started off at N3. Guys who went to a technical highschool started with N4.
Sbtw, N3 was a breeze after matric :crylaugh:

I went to an agricultural high school and started at N4.
 

Yirhu

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Look, passing first year engineering math is nothing to be sneezed at. Even if you did not manage to get the degree you can show what you did pass and at least stand out from other people who just have a matric. I know a guy who passed first year engineering, ran out of study funds, and then managed to start at a bank's call centre with just that and has worked his way up a bit from there. So don't give up, keep looking.

I hear you but the thing is, engineering maths has always been the least of my problems at uni in fact maths has always been the least of my problems and I cannot use this as a benchmark for successful engineering studies or successful university studies in my opinion. I believe there's that level of mental aptitude that makes people successful at uni, either one has it or doesn't and in my case I just lack it.
 

Yirhu

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Also technicon may work out better for you if you get the chance. More practical but a very solid education.

I agree but at this point I want to become a red sealed artisan, I want to approach it from the very practical aspect of it and then along the years I may go for a BEngTech or BTech.
 

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Fitters and turners don't make much more than two sticks rubbed together. All the ones I've known were generally abused slaves driving Chinese cars with Fat wives who tended to run off at some point.
 
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