Last week I was able to go onto Google, Facebook and Youtube with my local cap from telkom, then suddenly it stopped going onto any of those sites. I didn't change any settings or anything when this happened so I don't know what is causing this. I also didn't do anything to my settings in the 1st place like is mentioned in some threads on here to be able to go onto any of those sites, I was just automatically able to connect to them. I'm planning to try the forced setup to be able to get onto those sites again but just wanted to find out if anyone else has this problem, or if not, if it will sort out this problem if I use the method described in the forum on forcing those sites to local ip.
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Youtube, Facebook & Google stoped working with local cap
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Mephisto_Helix
Resident Postwhore
I was also able to access them with my IS local-only but then they stopped working ..... *shrugs*
RetroPedro
Expert Member
Something broke somewhere, you'll have to resort to following the prescribed steps, then life goes on locally ;0)
Pada
Executive Member
Ai julle noobs...
This exact thing was discussed numerous times already in this subforum the past week! Just search the forum and you'll get all the answers that you'll need to get it going on local cap again!
This exact thing was discussed numerous times already in this subforum the past week! Just search the forum and you'll get all the answers that you'll need to get it going on local cap again!
Mephisto_Helix
Resident Postwhore
He's obviously just joined to ask and isn't up to speed with all the search functions and whatever, so take your high and mighty attitude and shove it.
sincerious
Well-Known Member
diane7
Senior Member
Mine Stopped on Monday .
Have given up .
Nearly Next Month AND then I get 2 extra gigs FREE
Even though you might consider me a noob at least I'm able to read and understand what I read... If you looked I posted this thread to ask if it will definitely work if I do what you said in your other threads, I wasn't sure because it worked in the 1st place without me having to change anything on my computer, then stopped, again without me making any changes whatsoever, so I didn't want to just go make changes to stuff without being sure it would work.
I also didn't want to post a message in 1 of the other threads covering this issue as I expected a quicker response to my question if it was an entirely new thread, I don't have the time or the patience to wait for some1 to discover my message in a thread on page 100. Anyway thanx Pada I did what you said in your thread and it did work, i can now go onto those sites again. Maybe you can explain to this noob why it was working and then just suddenly stopped without me having made any changes?
So now that I'm sorted you can really ask a mod to remove or lock this thread since it seems to be giving you high blood pressure that there is now more than just your threads on this issue, my intention wasn't to take the spotlight away from your brilliance but simply to get a response while I was busy on this site reading through your masterpieces.
Oh and btw, subforum is 2 words..
Mine Stopped on Monday .
Have given up .
Nearly Next Month AND then I get 2 extra gigs FREE
I just did this and now I'm able to use those sites again. Its really easy to do just follow his steps exactly.
Its a post I found by Anthropoid:
"I have fooled my system to permanently use the local servers for all searching (modify your hosts file)
c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts Open with notepad and add the following lines to it.
196.23.168.147 www.google.co.za
196.23.168.147 www.google.com
diane7
Senior Member
Well THANKS for posting this Thread.
and Seems Im not the only one that it`s Not getting it to Work Without Changing Settings .
and Seems Im not the only one that it`s Not getting it to Work Without Changing Settings .
diane7
Senior Member
Pada
Executive Member
hey Wonderboy: I appreciate it that you at least put in the effort to read & try to understand this stuff. It really frustrates me when people have to be spoon fed 
The problem actually lies with our ISP's DNS servers. I would actually really want to know WHY they aren't giving us the local IP addresses!
When you try to access a URL, your PC has to query the DNS server for the IP address associated with the hostname (eg. 196.23.168.147 is associated with www.l.google.com) before it can actually connect to the server. Connections are made to the IP address and not to the hostname (eg. www.l.google.com is considered a hostname).
Here's a full example:
Say for instance you want to access http://mail.google.com/
Then your PC has to get the IP address associated with mail.google.com, so it then sends a request to the DNS server, which then replies with the associated IP address.
Once your PC received the DNS response, its caching the DNS entry so that it doesn't have to query the DNS server again, unless the DNS entry in the cache expired. All DNS entries have a TTL (time to live) which states how long they are valid.
Now that your PC has the IP address for that hostname, it can actually establish the TCP/IP connection to that server.
If you've modified your hosts file, then instead of querying the DNS server for the IP address, it just looks up the IP address in the hosts file instead. The only downside is that you have to include the exact hostname in the hosts file and not a hostname with wildcards or as a regular expression
This is why I suggested that you host a DNS server instead, since the BIND9 DNS server support wildcards
Update:
Here's the thread where I mentioned both the hosts file modification (at first) and then running your own DNS server: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/242316-Forcing-Google-Services-to-local-(RSA)-IP-address
Just take note that I haven't had the time to force the Facebook stuff yet, but that you can do quite easily with modifying the hosts file, since Facebook is using only a few hostnames, unlike Google.
The problem actually lies with our ISP's DNS servers. I would actually really want to know WHY they aren't giving us the local IP addresses!
When you try to access a URL, your PC has to query the DNS server for the IP address associated with the hostname (eg. 196.23.168.147 is associated with www.l.google.com) before it can actually connect to the server. Connections are made to the IP address and not to the hostname (eg. www.l.google.com is considered a hostname).
Here's a full example:
Say for instance you want to access http://mail.google.com/
Then your PC has to get the IP address associated with mail.google.com, so it then sends a request to the DNS server, which then replies with the associated IP address.
Once your PC received the DNS response, its caching the DNS entry so that it doesn't have to query the DNS server again, unless the DNS entry in the cache expired. All DNS entries have a TTL (time to live) which states how long they are valid.
Now that your PC has the IP address for that hostname, it can actually establish the TCP/IP connection to that server.
If you've modified your hosts file, then instead of querying the DNS server for the IP address, it just looks up the IP address in the hosts file instead. The only downside is that you have to include the exact hostname in the hosts file and not a hostname with wildcards or as a regular expression
This is why I suggested that you host a DNS server instead, since the BIND9 DNS server support wildcards
Update:
Here's the thread where I mentioned both the hosts file modification (at first) and then running your own DNS server: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/242316-Forcing-Google-Services-to-local-(RSA)-IP-address
Just take note that I haven't had the time to force the Facebook stuff yet, but that you can do quite easily with modifying the hosts file, since Facebook is using only a few hostnames, unlike Google.
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Tinuva
The Magician
That is actually just not true.Pada said:
The ISP's didn't have to do anything special in the 1st place. How it works is, their DNS servers do lookups to the authoritative servers, which Google/Facebook host. They control what their servers report back to the ISP DNS servers. So what happened a while back was, they started telling SA ips to use the google cache servers instead. Then for some reason it recently stopped again. Point is, there is nothing wrong with the ISP's DNS servers. Why would all major ISPs in SA at the exact same time decide to stop pushing local IPs for these sites?
All I can tell you is, there are other things in the pipeline that will be better than this redirecting to google cache servers via DNS.
Pada
Executive Member
Thanks for the explanation Tinuva. I have actually heard that exact thing already, but I'm not that clued up on how all the DNS servers work, since I haven't studied IP networking.
I would've thought that the ISP's would at least try to get these authoritative servers to report the correct IP addresses then. I know that they don't control these servers, but I would assume that they (IS & SAIX) would at least have some say in this matter?
I would've thought that the ISP's would at least try to get these authoritative servers to report the correct IP addresses then. I know that they don't control these servers, but I would assume that they (IS & SAIX) would at least have some say in this matter?
diane7
Senior Member
Thanks
Its Working 4 me at the Moment This Morning clicked on Igoogle SA and page opend .
Had page Cannot be displayed 4 about 4 Days
sincerious
Well-Known Member
i've tried, read and did everything exactly as instructed, but nothing worked for me so i gave up and deleted all the info i had pasted into my hosts file.
lo and behold, since yesterday, i can access youtube, google and facebook again!
think the adsl outage, yesterday, has something to do with this miracle... lol... go telkom! and hey, thanks man!
ps. and here's proof that i am able to access youtube, using local only - without the suggested changes to hosts file - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...out-cellphone-providers?p=4431120#post4431120 trevor noah vid i downloaded today.
lo and behold, since yesterday, i can access youtube, google and facebook again!
think the adsl outage, yesterday, has something to do with this miracle... lol... go telkom! and hey, thanks man!
ps. and here's proof that i am able to access youtube, using local only - without the suggested changes to hosts file - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...out-cellphone-providers?p=4431120#post4431120 trevor noah vid i downloaded today.
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diane7
Senior Member
Thanks so it wasent just ME
downloding A ll my YOUTUBE i have saved in my Folder ,,
idident change anything since monday
di likes Google Maps STREET View .
downloding A ll my YOUTUBE i have saved in my Folder ,,
idident change anything since monday
di likes Google Maps STREET View .
idident? di likes? turn on spellchecker and try make sure your sentences make sense - "downloding A ll my YOUTUBE i have saved in my Folder ,," is pretty incomprehensible... =)
Pada
Executive Member
Yeah Fragtion. Pretty much all diane7's posts were impossible to understand, eg.:
Also: whats up with the bold & capital letters?!
Btw:
I'm on Mweb business uncapped and the DNS servers are still reporting international IP addresses for YouTube, Facebook & Google!
Yoda much!?Thanks
Its Working 4 me at the Moment This Morning clicked on Igoogle SA and page opend .
Had page Cannot be displayed 4 about 4 Days
Also: whats up with the bold & capital letters?!
Btw:
I'm on Mweb business uncapped and the DNS servers are still reporting international IP addresses for YouTube, Facebook & Google!