My money is gone.

marco

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I personally deposited money into my brokers account. Now he says that half is gone. He says that he put it on the JSE and they took it. Who do I believe?
Who do I get to trace my money? I need it back now.
I somehow think the broker took it.
 
who is to answer to you if you put your money in a bank account and they buy stocks or whatever and you lose it?
 
"Money is gone" can mean two things.
1) He invested it and the shares took a heavy hit (Fairly like given the recent economic shyte) = Nothing you can do
2) He lost it in some other way. (Fairly unlikely) = You could have a claim against him

So first thing, you have to find out exactly what he means by "lost it". Did you give him instructions to invest it? If its just in the brokers account and he never got instructions (either verbal or tacit) to invest then the money should still be there.

Remember, you still carry the risk in the investment he makes. He is buying on your behalf.

I strongly suspect that you are out of luck. Please don't make any wild accusations to him about him taking it without being 100% sure of your facts.
 
I strongly suspect that you are out of luck. Please don't make any wild accusations to him about him taking it without being 100% sure of your facts.

Seconded.

The markets of late = extremely volatile, and it's not a good time to actually try and invest something.
 
While losing 50% does seem high, it is plausible taking into account the current state of the financial markets. Ask him for more information, maybe what stocks portfolio he invested in? If you went to a well known brokerage then chances are he is just telling you the truth. Maybe your broker was just given lousy information from his psychic...(sorry, its a low blow but I couldn't resist it)

I think I would just go have a meeting with the broker and then ask him to explain what the hell happened. If his info checks out then you were just one of the many people who got burned by this financial farce.
 
I personally deposited money into my brokers account. Now he says that half is gone. He says that he put it on the JSE and they took it. Who do I believe?
Who do I get to trace my money? I need it back now.
I somehow think the broker took it.

Is this a joke or what? Everybody lost money on the JSE last week. What are you on about?
 
No man. Money is money. I gave my broker all my savings to invest on the JSE. Half is missing now. He was the last person to deal with it, so he must have stolen half. Money doesn't just disappear.
 
No man. Money is money. I gave my broker all my savings to invest on the JSE. Half is missing now. He was the last person to deal with it, so he must have stolen half. Money doesn't just disappear.

Let me try an understand.

You deposited Rx into his personal account.
50% of deposited money is now gone.
You s***ting bricks.

If above is true - you are in trouble.
Otherwise, you have to receive some notice of perspecting. Correspondence.

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No man. Money is money. I gave my broker all my savings to invest on the JSE. Half is missing now. He was the last person to deal with it, so he must have stolen half. Money doesn't just disappear.

Did he invest your money on the JSE. ie did he actually buy stocks on the JSE with your money.

Or did you give your money to the broker and even before investing it he has now lost half of it?

Its hard to understand what you're talking about.
 
Ok, let me understand this: There is a broker; World Financial Crisis; Banks Belling Up; Stock Market crashes last seen since 1929; 50% of balance remaining.... sorry, now what was the question again?
 
No man. Money is money. I gave my broker all my savings to invest on the JSE. Half is missing now. He was the last person to deal with it, so he must have stolen half. Money doesn't just disappear.

When? Recently? (Stupid Move), or looong ago? Was it R1K or R100K?

In any case, remember: Opening Cash balance might have been Rx... but if he bought stuff with it, it does not stay cash. Hence why 50% could be 'gone'? I Don't know, cause you are not making any sense at all. Give more details. Dates and stuff. What did you ask him to do? What did he tell you exactly? Did he not give you feedback/statements?

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Did he lose the money BEFORE investing it or did he invest the full amount and now half is missing? If it's the first one then you may be correct if it's the second, then that's the risk you take by investing in a volatile market.
 
No man. Money is money. I gave my broker all my savings to invest on the JSE. Half is missing now. He was the last person to deal with it, so he must have stolen half. Money doesn't just disappear.

I understand how you feel, too bad you did not speak to a financial advisor/planner before hand (we have one here on our forum).
 
marco, a quick investment lesson for you:

If you invest R1000 in stocks that are worth R1 each, you effectively hold 1000 stocks.

Correct? You with me? Right?

Let's say those stocks loses half their value and drops to R0.50, you still own 1000 stocks, but the value of those stocks are now only worth R500.

Effectivley you have just lost half your money. This is the stock market. You trade money for stock in a company that you think might do well and grow.

Get it? Thats how money dissappears and that is why you never invest all of your savings in the stock market.

Diversify

I figured with people like that Oprah dude you would know by now what to do. Hell, did you even consult with the broker telling him you're giving him all your savings and did he offer advice to the contrary?

On that note, I have some unicorns to sell you, might want to considering investing that, their meat tastes devine and because my brother's truck broke I have all these unicorns and I don't have bus faire so could you please buy this stock off me? You'd make like 1000% profit because you can sell their horns too. Cheap cheap, just R6000
 
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No man. Money is money. I gave my broker all my savings to invest on the JSE. Half is missing now. He was the last person to deal with it, so he must have stolen half. Money doesn't just disappear.

Lol the markets are crashing, people are taking their money out as fast as they can and you want to invest now? Very brave, but stupid imo.
 
marco, read what AcidRaZor says!

Having made quite a bit on the JSE by fluke and lost quite a bit on the JSE by stupidity, herewith some of rwenzori's tips for stock exchange idiots:

1. If you hand money over to a broker and let him trade on your behalf, you are likely to lose out unless he backs a real winner. A broker earns on the churn - his fees are a % of trades. He therefore is highly motivated to trade your hard-earned $$$ frequently rather than leaving them in some nice quiet blue-chip stock. To put it plainly - his motivation is HIS enrichment, not so much YOURS.

2. The one alternative is to make the trade decisions yourself. Unless you have some clue, in fact waaaaay more than a clue, you are only going to make money by fluke. OK, you overhear some hot tip while in the toilet one day, and do a big buy, then? Normally the share bumbles around what you paid for it ( unless we are in a panic as now LOL! ). Why? Studies have shown that stock prices anticipate publicly announced results by 2-3 months. So your toilet tip is probably too late. You might call it insider trading, you might call it fraud, but the guy whose cousin is the financial director of Acme Widgets knows loooong in advance of the rest of us what those Acme shares are going to do come year-end.

3. So you go off and look in the papers at the "Best Performing Unit Trusts" and sink whatever you have left into those. What they don't tell you is that those wonderful growth percentages are BEFORE they have taken their cut, and their fees, and a few "adjustments", and you might as well have taken a Govt bond.

So really the stock market is only for those that know what they are doing. Which excludes me, and you too, by the sounds of it.

( It also seems to exclude Vox Telecom who sunk over R30m into a street lottery called Dealstream LOL ).
 
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