Apple Antennagate takes aim at Nokia N97 mini

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http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_squeezes_the_reception_out_of__nokia_n97_mini-news-1827.php

Seems like Steve is not going to admit his mistake, nope, instead he is taking the mature option and points fingers at everyone else. Nice try, but even though they manage to weaken the reception of the N97 mini it is highly unlikely that it will drop the call. Nokia phones are renowned for their call clarity even under very poor signal condition.

Still its worth checking out the article just for the laugh (at pitiful Steve :D)
 
Rouxenator said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_squeezes_the_reception_out_of__nokia_n97_mini-news-1827.php

Seems like Steve is not going to admit his mistake, nope, instead he is taking the mature option and points fingers at everyone else. Nice try, but even though they manage to weaken the reception of the N97 mini it is highly unlikely that it will drop the call. Nokia phones are renowned for their call clarity even under very poor signal condition.

Still its worth checking out the article just for the laugh (at pitiful Steve :D)
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Pathetic to be quite frank, they should have ripped off the OS the N97 was running :D.
 
funny how nokia users never complained about this.
the question is still not about dropping signal.
it's about how apple didn't own up to the problem.
 
Oh Roux! You must be LOVING this! :)

I agree with you this time BTW - it is a ridiculously flawed piece of design that should be the pic under 'Form over Function' on Wikipedia.

It took me a while to believe that it was actually true but after the press conference announcing free cases, what can I say? What can anyone say? It's a giant stuff up.

I'm currently weighing up my options in terms of my next phone at the end of the year.
 
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murraybiscuit said:
funny how nokia users never complained about this.
the question is still not about dropping signal.
it's about how apple didn't own up to the problem.
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Dunno about anyone else but for me as a potential purchaser of the iPhone 4 it is exactly about buying a phone that drops calls when it comes into contact with a persons hand.

I don't think I could look at myself fin the mirror tbh. If they fix it (hardware fix) I'm getting one otherwise I'll have to pass on what I honestly think is the most stunning piece of hardware I have ever seen.
 
Why not try the iPhone 4 first and see if the hype is really true or not?

What's interesting is manufacturers have come out swinging at Apple but no manufacturer has come up with actual hard numbers that prove their phone drops less calls or doesn't suffer from this problem too!

All those videos of people losing reception when holding other phones on youtube and the Apple sites are clever fakes. :whistle:
 
Synaesthesia said:
Why not try the iPhone 4 first and see if the hype is really true or not?

What's interesting is manufacturers have come out swinging at Apple but no manufacturer has come up with actual hard numbers that prove their phone drops less calls or doesn't suffer from this problem too!

All those videos of people losing reception when holding other phones on youtube and the Apple sites are clever fakes. :whistle:
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Yea, this is a fair point. I remember when the 2G had been out a few months seeing some blogs etc. suggesting how to hold the device when browsing. Seems people had been palming the antenna when browsing in landscape and it was wreaking havoc with the EDGE signal.

That I can handle.

My house is in a wooded area and my iPhone 3G is constantly losing 3G and going to EDGE then back again. Actually dropping calls though is another issue all together, its a serious concern, even to the point of being a security vulnerability... if I am at home and my wife needs to get hold of me cos her car has broken down and she's standing by the side of the road or something I want to get that call I don't want some shiny bauble tchotke of a phone to be having personality issues while my family is in danger.
 
Synaesthesia said:
Why not try the iPhone 4 first and see if the hype is really true or not?
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If it was not true then Steve would not have made an appearance about it where he promised free casings for all.

Synaesthesia said:
What's interesting is manufacturers have come out swinging at Apple...
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They only did that after Steve took the first swing at them.

You see what this all boils down to? It comes down to apple being at fault in the first place - and then continuing to ride that wave of mistakes because they are just too arrogant to do anything else. I have been saying this for years now but people prefer to turn a blind eye to it - Apple is evil! They suck donkey balls and their users are arrogant turd nuggets. The only thing Apple does good is innovation with user interfaces - and marketing - lots of marketing. Apart from that it is one very rotten empire with rotting zombie followers living in denial.
 
Roux, I so badly want to agree with you, you make such a valid point here:

Rouxenator said:
If it was not true then Steve would not have made an appearance about it where he promised free casings for all.


They only did that after Steve took the first swing at them.
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...and then:

Rouxenator said:
You see what this all boils down to? It comes down to apple being at fault in the first place - and then continuing to ride that wave of mistakes because they are just too arrogant to do anything else. I have been saying this for years now but people prefer to turn a blind eye to it - Apple is evil! They suck donkey balls and their users are arrogant turd nuggets. The only thing Apple does good is innovation with user interfaces - and marketing - lots of marketing. Apart from that it is one very rotten empire with rotting zombie followers living in denial.
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...you slide headlong into an utterly typical and moronic rant that makes no sense, cannot be backed up with any kind of factual evidence and serves only to show what a total and utterly fervent hater you are thus discrediting the part of your post that actually had a point.

It's like: everything is right ...except your opinion.
 
No - if you read it with a "problem followed by cause" approach it makes perfect sense. The only difference is that I am done *****footing about with Apple, "they" are arrogant and that is the main reason for antennagate.
I am just putting it very bluntly and if that sounds utterly moronic to you then so be it.
 
Rouxenator said:
If it was not true then Steve would not have made an appearance about it where he promised free casings for all.
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Fair enough, I'd still like to actually use an iPhone 4 myself just to see how bad it is. [/quote]
They only did that after Steve took the first swing at them.
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He said all phones lose reception when held in your hand. That's a fact.
You see what this all boils down to? It comes down to apple being at fault in the first place - and then continuing to ride that wave of mistakes because they are just too arrogant to do anything else. I have been saying this for years now but people prefer to turn a blind eye to it - Apple is evil! They suck donkey balls and their users are arrogant turd nuggets.
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Yes they're evil. But so is every bloody company! Do you think Nokia are a bunch of angels? They're all just corporations selling products.
The only thing Apple does good is innovation with user interfaces - and marketing - lots of marketing. Apart from that it is one very rotten empire with rotting zombie followers living in denial.
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You're so right, it's not like the iPhone is good at Email or web surfing, media playback, skype, reading, social networking, news, games, or any of that other stuff.
 
Yes, all phones lose reception when held in your hand. That's a fact. The N97 Mini drops from 7 bars to 2 bars (as illustrated by Apple), but the iPhone4 goes full mental on this and drops the signal complete.
Unlike on other devices where your hand mere acts as a barrier for the signal, on the iPhone4 you are short circuiting to antennas. Lying about this and trying to point fingers at other companies is what makes apple evil.
That and many other things like the whole adobe thing and their whole Orwellian way of handling users.
 
This is one point I do agree with Steve on: How on earth has this become such a big thing? Clearly iphone 4 users have absolutely nothing to do but complain. Then again Apple do set themselves up for this when they say it's the best ever with the best this and that, perhaps it's just as well that iphone users hold them up to the standard they set. So I take it back there's nothing I agree with Steve on.
 
Rouxenator said:
Yes, all phones lose reception when held in your hand. That's a fact. The N97 Mini drops from 7 bars to 2 bars (as illustrated by Apple), but the iPhone4 goes full mental on this and drops the signal complete. .
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Only a few people are complaining about this, most say it works just fine. In fact the proximity sensor bug is a much bigger issue it would seem!
 
Rouxenator said:
No - if you read it with a "problem followed by cause" approach it makes perfect sense. The only difference is that I am done *****footing about with Apple, "they" are arrogant and that is the main reason for antennagate.
I am just putting it very bluntly and if that sounds utterly moronic to you then so be it.
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No... for you - this is an emotional issue which is not only ridiculous, absurd and bizarre but it ruins your credibility and you go off on spastic rants as result.
 
Synaesthesia said:
All those videos of people losing reception when holding other phones on youtube and the Apple sites are clever fakes. :whistle:
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SlinkyMike said:
if I am at home and my wife needs to get hold of me cos her car has broken down and she's standing by the side of the road or something I want to get that call
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So true, nobody wants to miss their dinner.

but at least you get to watch TV in peace.......
 
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