Nokia CEO Stephen Elop under pressure for Microsoft decision

Nokia is dead

So, instead of adopting a free, very up-and coming ecosystem (android), Nokia's CEO decided to join a dying ecosystem.

Dead.

RIP Nokia.
 
The fat lady has sung for Nokia

I cannot believe they made that decision. I was a big Nokia fan, but as of late their software hasn't been cutting mustard. They should have gone with Android ... 'cos that's where I'm going ;)
 
DSG GTI said:
I cannot believe they made that decision. I was a big Nokia fan, but as of late their software hasn't been cutting mustard. They should have gone with Android ... 'cos that's where I'm going ;)
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OK, you need to explain to each gentleman here how you cut mustard. I need to know this. Thank you.
 
I, for one, am looking forward to the Microsoft marriage. I've read reviews on the operating system and it sounds promising.

I too am a Nokia fan and recently got the Nokia N8 with the latest Symbian software which is awesome. Microsoft will have to work hard to match Symbian 3 :)
 
They really should have created their ecosystem. I think if they gave developers access to those 200 million symbian users they could have given Apple and Google a run for their money and WP7 unfortunately may have been a looser. Make it simple for developers to to get apps to Symbian. Symbian is dead? Then make it simple to port Qt symbian apps to Meego and vice versa. Then get a UI designer for both Symbian and Meego.
 
lunamystry said:
They really should have created their ecosystem. I think if they gave developers access to those 200 million symbian users they could have given Apple and Google a run for their money and WP7 unfortunately may have been a looser. Make it simple for developers to to get apps to Symbian. Symbian is dead? Then make it simple to port Qt symbian apps to Meego and vice versa. Then get a UI designer for both Symbian and Meego.
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um. that's what they tried. it didn't work.
 
murraybiscuit said:
um. that's what they tried. it didn't work.
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Elop said that was because of lack of accountability and slow delivery of innovation and lack of collaboration internally. He should have fixed that. Push for two Meego phones this year, have the hardware and software go for a week discussing how they can better the iphone. Put a reward internally for anyone whose idea is approved to create the proper iphone killer. Then how can symbian be killed to they're advantage?

Basically I don't believe the Nokia ecosystem had failed. I believed this year could have been Nokia's year. Maybe I am too optimistic.
 
Even though Symbian isnt that good I've had no issues with it. Infact its rather unique as both iOS and Android look rather similar. That being said I'm not happy about the change to MS, would have fully supported the Android move though
 
Symbian had to go, it had seriously outstayed its welcome. Lucky Nokia realised this before it became a WinMo6 albatross around their neck. WP7 is still new and evolving, and Nokia have a chance to get in on the ground level and help shape its future. If they went Android, they'd just be along for the ride competing with the chinese for price, with no say in the long-term future of the base OS (as Elop has mentioned) and then they'd truly be a dead company.

Elop didn't make this decision alone, the entire Nokia board voted on it. He's just the messenger.
 
elvis_presley said:
Symbian had to go, it had seriously outstayed its welcome. Lucky Nokia realised this before it became a WinMo6 albatross around their neck. WP7 is still new and evolving, and Nokia have a chance to get in on the ground level and help shape its future. If they went Android, they'd just be along for the ride competing with the chinese for price, with no say in the long-term future of the base OS (as Elop has mentioned) and then they'd truly be a dead company.

Elop didn't make this decision alone, the entire Nokia board voted on it. He's just the messenger.
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+1
Symbian was sooooo 1990s. At least now with Microsoft they have a chance to develop something thats much better and add to the whole user experience!
 
Used a trophy and really liked it, so Nokia moving to use wp7 is a great move in my eyes.

Though what I find truly disturbing is how stupid some people can be.
Elop may have suggested wp7 as an alternative OS sure, but without from the board members and majority shareholders nothing could have gone forward in the first place.
 
These two companies realize only too well the results of success or failure. This marriage will give both companies the necessary jolt to become true competitors again in the Smartphone market. Although I am an Apple fan I look forward to the competition in future as it will serve as a catalyst to improve the whole Smartphone market.
 
Method said:
I, for one, am looking forward to the Microsoft marriage. I've read reviews on the operating system and it sounds promising.

I too am a Nokia fan and recently got the Nokia N8 with the latest Symbian software which is awesome. Microsoft will have to work hard to match Symbian 3 :)
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I was a Nokia user for 13 years. Tested the N8 and compared it with the IPhone. Sorry, no comparison. The N8's interface is dated and has slow response times. The N8 camera probably beats most phones hands down but overall, it's a long way off Android and IPhone devices.

W
 
what i find interesting is how ppl slam Win 7 phone before they try it, every review out there raves about Win 7 phone despite it's "new release" short comings...i thought intelligent people used these forums...
 
Currently we only have two dominant smartphone OS's. That's not good for competition, and thus us as consumers. I for one hope that they are successful in this, we need at least a third player. I doubt HP and Palm can pull it off.
 
I have to agree, Nokia is super dead, the current market share for Windows Mobile compared to the other OS's. Something like 8%, Android recently overtook iOS. The Windows Mobile market share drops 2% every quarter and I doubt Nokia will "beat Android" as the CEO stated in a other announcement.

The technology of WP7 is anyway so far behind, just a quick example is the Nexus S phone has near-field-communication.
just my 2c
 
I am not a nokia fan or windows mobile 7 fan .. but I reckon .. watch this space .. both nokia and microsoft (windows mobile division) are on the ropes ... dont corner an angry tiger .. I think this is just what the market needs .. a third big player (with loads of capital) .. OIS and apple .. microsoft and nokia .. and android and everyone else .. things are coming I think .. big things ... nokia CANNOT afford to fail at this .. and I think microsoft are tired of getting the carrot from Google, in a space that they once dominated (smartphone/PDA -IPAQ etc) .. so these guys should bring something fresh to a very competitive space .. which is GREAT for the consumer
 
theJonster said:
what i find interesting is how ppl slam Win 7 phone before they try it, every review out there raves about Win 7 phone despite it's "new release" short comings...i thought intelligent people used these forums...
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Exactly, the WP7 Mobile OS is not even freely available in SA yet, and here we have a bunch of experts giving their opinion on something they have not even had a dry run on. I was fortunate enough to test WP7 on a HTC Mozart 2 weeks ago - and I can honestly say it was a refreshing change from the norm, easy to use and fast. The biggest plus is that we can use C# based software to write applications for it for business. The phones that MS decided to deploy WP7 are of high quality and spec – but the technology (i.e. Silverlight) will still need to settle in the industry. To me this is the phone standard of the future, I have no problem with Android currently, but we need to look at what would be dominant over the next 3-5 years and my gut tells me this is what Nokia have also seen in WP7.

So, please, do yourself a favour and go and test the WP7 OS for yourself before criticising it on this forum.
 
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