4Chan founder dislikes Facebook model on online identities

Of course being personally identifiable wouldn't work for 4chan; an environments like that thrives on a kind of creative anarchy.

But that doesn't mean the entire web should be that anarchic. I think most of the web would be massively improved just by reducing the number of trolls, racists, bigots, crackpots and nutters so many discussions attract; I would hope most would think twice about posting if their idiocy was next to their real name. It wouldn't be a 100% fix of course, but it should help.
 
^ This proves Moot's point. Anonymity is necessary because it protects people from this kind of thing. The kind of holier-than-thou people that would shut everyone up because they feel "offended" and only want to see people's views they agree with or feel comfortable with and label the rest racists, bigots, or whatever else they can come up with.

Yes, there are some sick ****s on 4chan, but that's just too bad, ignore it, you're an adult. It's the most creative place on the internet and some of the stuff there is pure genius. Probably 80% of memes originate there, and the rest from Youboobtube.

If some pictures and words on a website bothers someone that much, I can't imagine the suffering they go through on a daily basis when faced with actual real life, which is far, far worse.

Edit: Besides, any group that (even almost) gets Justin Bieber sent to North Korea can't be all bad... :D
 
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I would like to think twice before posting my real name in online world in first place.
I think, no.
 
TJ99 said:
^ This proves Moot's point. Anonymity is necessary because it protects people from this kind of thing. The kind of holier-than-thou people that would shut everyone up because they feel "offended" and only want to see people's views they agree with or feel comfortable with and label the rest racists, bigots, or whatever else they can come up with.

Yes, there are some sick ****s on 4chan, but that's just too bad, ignore it, you're an adult. It's the most creative place on the internet and some of the stuff there is pure genius. Probably 95% of memes originate there, and the rest from Youboobtube.

If some pictures and words on a website bothers someone that much, I can't imagine the suffering they go through on a daily basis when faced with actual real life, which is far, far worse.

Edit: Besides, any group that (even almost) gets Justin Bieber sent to North Korea can't be all bad... :D
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Fixed...practically every meme starts off there
 
As long as you can get fired from your job for perfectly legal and socially acceptable things, you need anonymity.

Example: Teacher got fired for posting a FB picture of herself holding two glasses of alcohol, while on holiday. Don't fit in with the moral majority in the country? You can't work here.

Example: 45% of employers use Facebook and Twitter before they employ someone. The boss finds your personal lifestyle to be bad? You don't get a job, no matter how qualified.

Example: Person is gay. Boss is a bigoted ass. Boss finds out person is gay. Person gets fired.

Example: In certain Muslim countries being gay is punishable by death. You accidentally post something online? Bad luck for you.

Example: People protesting against their government in China. If you get caught you get killed/imprisoned for life.

Sometimes anonymity is needed to protect you AGAINST the bigots and fearful in the world.
 
A bit hypocritical of moot to lambaste Zuckerbergs vision of using your identity to post on the internet, and then having a closed beta that requires facebook connect. Anonymity is good, but not all good. Even moot knows this.
 
Rouxenator said:
4chan is God's gift to trolls.
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:wtf: You crazy? It's probably the worst place to troll on the whole net. There are too many smart people.

God's gift to trolls = anywhere Apple users are found, but mostly the Bioware forums. So much lulz there it's not even funny. Just watch out that they don't block the games you paid for hey. Bioware is really touchy about having sold their souls to the devil.

End of line.
 
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Anonymity has it's perks, and is not all bad..With them you can gather Like minded people and start a Online Revolution without getting fired :-)
But, the whole Idea of a site Like Facebook, is to Digitaly Capture your life.. Witch was one of the Reasons Mark Zuckerberg started the whole Facebook Movement :D.
 
The internet is wild place and its functions fine right now, just as it is. Anonymity, should be possible for those who choose it. I think the way Facebook is progressing is a bad for the internet at a whole. With what facebook has been doing recently, deleting people's profiles who they think are using aliases, is a sign of things to come. If facebook goes where they and the US government want it to go, your facebook account will have to be FICA'ed / RICA'ed at the nearest facebook office. With the level of integration they are achieving, and how other sites are integrating facebook, you wont be able to be a contributing member of the Internets without logging onto the internet using your verified facebook account.

Maybe a bit exagerated, but I am sure thats what facebook would love to acheive.. and the governments of the world would love this too...
 
Natas said:
The internet is wild place and its functions fine right now, just as it is. Anonymity, should be possible for those who choose it. I think the way Facebook is progressing is a bad for the internet at a whole. With what facebook has been doing recently, deleting people's profiles who they think are using aliases, is a sign of things to come. If facebook goes where they and the US government want it to go, your facebook account will have to be FICA'ed / RICA'ed at the nearest facebook office. With the level of integration they are achieving, and how other sites are integrating facebook, you wont be able to be a contributing member of the Internets without logging onto the internet using your verified facebook account.

Maybe a bit exagerated, but I am sure thats what facebook would love to acheive.. and the governments of the world would love this too...
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+1 Yes, exactly. I don't think you're exagerrating at all, they're really clamping down on all forms of free communication and expression, slowly but surely. If there's one thing you can always count on, it's that people will cling to control where they can. And we sit back and take it. Even if you're one of these internets newbies who believe plastering your whole life all over the interwebz for all the world to see is a good idea (which I definitely don't, my RL and my OL life should have as little to do with each other as possible), the attitude of Facebook these days is staggering.

Unfortunately Google is not far behind them with the tracking of information and storing details. The difference is that governments aren't trying to take control of people's Google accounts in the same way. Yet. It's coming, mark my words. This is the cancer that's slowly killing the internets. Facebook not yet maybe, but our ISP accounts are already subject to RICA, FICA, JICA MA JICA and whatever else.
 
So am I the only one who thought the Facebook model referred to in the title was actually a (super hot & sexy female) model? :o
 
"This is a way to filter out trolls, people who want to come in and mess things up."

I can relate to this, getting people to contribute constructively on the internet is a challenge. I think the world is big enough for both the "Identified" and "Anonymous" models. It needs both in order to function.

Without a real indentity online I couldn't reasonablly trust (a relative term) anyone or anything. eg. Blog posts from promminent leaders in an industry
Without a pseudo indentity online I couldn't gank newbs without fear of a nutter doing me harm.

It's a yin yang thing.
 
I abhor 4Chan. A website of perverts and superiority complexes.

The irritating thing is most of the people there are fat little 12 year olds who think they are "l33t" cos' they know about trollfaces and say "u jelly?".
 
jackshiels said:
I abhor 4Chan. A website of perverts and superiority complexes.

The irritating thing is most of the people there are fat little 12 year olds who think they are "l33t" cos' they know about trollfaces and say "u jelly?".
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Find it funny how an article about being anonymous, and you identify and entire community to 12 year olds.
 
If it wasn't for 4chan, I would never have discovered the awesomeness of My Little Pony, Friendship is magic =3
 
eltherza said:
Find it funny how an article about being anonymous, and you identify and entire community to 12 year olds.
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I know you were trying to say something there, but for the life of me, I can't figure it out. :)
 
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