Neotel NeoBroadband 5Mbps Fibre running at 50Mbps after hours

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We have the 5up : 5down down option at work, and during the day we about 6.8 down, and about 4.8 up
It's managed during the day from a speed point of view, it seems it does not get managed after hours... as the following will show you.

National does seem to have a limitation, but within your metro... these speeds are obtainable all day...

I get 2-3ms traces to CINX -- And quite frankly have been totally blown away by the service thus far.
We are going to be moving up to 10up : 10down soon for the extra headroom it will give us during business hours.

Ubuntu Torrents

>>>> Utorrent Test - 7pm Friday <<<<

Pinging jolt.co.uk [84.234.17.86] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 84.234.17.86: bytes=32 time=153ms TTL=110
Reply from 84.234.17.86: bytes=32 time=153ms TTL=110
Reply from 84.234.17.86: bytes=32 time=153ms TTL=110
Reply from 84.234.17.86: bytes=32 time=156ms TTL=110

Ping statistics for 84.234.17.86:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 153ms, Maximum = 156ms, Average = 153ms
Pinging is.cinx.net.za [198.32.214.10] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 198.32.214.10: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=249
Reply from 198.32.214.10: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=249
Reply from 198.32.214.10: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=249
Reply from 198.32.214.10: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=249
Reply from 198.32.214.10: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=249
Reply from 198.32.214.10: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=249
Reply from 198.32.214.10: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=249

Ping statistics for 198.32.214.10:
Packets: Sent = 7, Received = 7, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 2ms
Pinging ntp2.is.co.za [196.26.5.10] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 196.26.5.10: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=56
Reply from 196.26.5.10: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=56
Reply from 196.26.5.10: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=56
Reply from 196.26.5.10: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 196.26.5.10:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 2ms
Pinging ntp.is.co.za [196.4.160.4] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 196.4.160.4: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=55
Reply from 196.4.160.4: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=55
Reply from 196.4.160.4: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=55
Reply from 196.4.160.4: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 196.4.160.4:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 28ms, Maximum = 29ms, Average = 28ms
Pinging ns1.theplanet.com [207.218.247.135] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 207.218.247.135: bytes=32 time=259ms TTL=235
Reply from 207.218.247.135: bytes=32 time=259ms TTL=235
Reply from 207.218.247.135: bytes=32 time=258ms TTL=235
Reply from 207.218.247.135: bytes=32 time=259ms TTL=235

Ping statistics for 207.218.247.135:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 258ms, Maximum = 259ms, Average = 258ms
Pinging ns1.level3.net [209.244.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.244.0.1: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=47
Reply from 209.244.0.1: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=47
Reply from 209.244.0.1: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=47
Reply from 209.244.0.1: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=47

Ping statistics for 209.244.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 223ms, Maximum = 223ms, Average = 223ms
But if there are any doubters as to what is possible over a 5up : 5down line, this posting will hopefully be the final say on that matter!

I'd be happy to answer further questions regarding the service, service installation or any other info :)

Cape Town tests








JHB tests








DBN tests

 
Thanks for the feedback, can you post some traceroutes
 
"droooool"

That is very impressive, thank you for the feedback :), how much does something like this cost :/?
 
Don't think we'll be hosting any network tools for public use, but hopefully the following comes in useful :)


Tracing route to jolt.co.uk [84.234.17.86]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.16.2
4 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 41.164.0.242
5 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms ix-0-1-6-0.tcore2.KLT-CapeTown.as6453.net [41.206.164.29]
6 152 ms 153 ms 152 ms if-2-2.tcore1.KLT-CapeTown.as6453.net [41.206.164.253]
7 1185 ms 1211 ms 870 ms if-0-3-2.core2.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [195.219.214.33]
8 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms if-0-0-0-2000.tcore1.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [80.231.158.1]
9 152 ms 158 ms 164 ms if-3-2.tcore1.SV8-Highbridge.as6453.net [80.231.158.10]
10 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms if-2-2.tcore2.SV8-Highbridge.as6453.net [80.231.139.1]
11 157 ms 151 ms 152 ms if-9-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.139.18]
12 152 ms 158 ms 161 ms Vlan704.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net [80.231.130.10]
13 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms ldn-b5-link.telia.net [213.248.74.1]
14 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms ldn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.252.209]
15 153 ms 152 ms 152 ms ldn-b4-link.telia.net [80.91.254.22]
16 170 ms 188 ms 206 ms netrinouk-ic-141473-ldn-b4.c.telia.net [213.248.98.134]
17 153 ms 152 ms 152 ms hex-edge.netrino.co.uk [84.234.19.146]
18 154 ms 155 ms 154 ms bs1-core.netrino.co.uk [84.234.19.5]
19 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms bruce.ferrago.net [84.234.17.86]

Trace complete.
Tracing route to is.cinx.net.za [198.32.214.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.16.2
4 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 41.164.0.242
5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms is.cinx.net.za [198.32.214.10]

Trace complete.
Tracing route to ntp2.is.co.za [196.26.5.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.16.2
4 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 41.164.0.242
5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms is.cinx.net.za [198.32.214.10]
6 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms csw3-ctn-vl5.ip.isnet.net [168.209.6.252]
7 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms ntp2.is.co.za [196.26.5.10]

Trace complete.
Tracing route to ntp.is.co.za [196.4.160.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.16.2
4 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 41.164.0.242
5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms is.cinx.net.za [198.32.214.10]
6 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms core2a-ctn-gi0-1.ip.isnet.net [168.209.2.6]
7 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms 168.209.100.213
8 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms ar2-rba-tnr-gi0-2.ip.isnet.net [168.209.1.132]
9 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms ntp.is.co.za [196.4.160.4]

Trace complete.
Tracing route to ns1.theplanet.com [207.218.247.135]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 4 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.16.2
4 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 41.164.0.242
5 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms ix-0-1-6-0.tcore1.KLT-CapeTown.as6453.net [41.206.164.25]
6 126 ms 125 ms 125 ms if-0-3-1.core2.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [195.219.214.57]
7 217 ms 216 ms 217 ms if-0-0-0-2000.tcore1.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [80.231.158.1]
8 219 ms 219 ms 219 ms if-3-2.tcore1.SV8-Highbridge.as6453.net [80.231.158.10]
9 216 ms 219 ms 217 ms if-6-2.tcore1.NJY-Newark.as6453.net [80.231.138.18]
10 217 ms 234 ms 217 ms if-2-2.tcore2.NJY-Newark.as6453.net [66.198.70.2]
11 * 230 ms * Vlan82.icore1.NTO-NewYork.as6453.net [66.198.111.18]
12 222 ms 220 ms 221 ms Vlan578.icore1.NTO-NewYork.as6453.net [209.58.26.118]
13 221 ms 221 ms 221 ms pos-1-13-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.97]
14 223 ms 223 ms 223 ms pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.201]
15 239 ms 239 ms 239 ms pos-1-3-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.70]
16 259 ms 260 ms 259 ms pos-1-9-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.233]
17 259 ms 259 ms 259 ms pos-0-0-0-0-pe01.1950stemmons.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.90]
18 259 ms 259 ms 259 ms theplanet-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228.2]
19 259 ms 259 ms 260 ms te3-5.dsr01.dllstx3.networklayer.com [70.87.253.86]
20 259 ms 258 ms 258 ms xe-0-1-0.dsr01.dllstx7.networklayer.com [70.87.253.218]
21 260 ms 259 ms 259 ms b2.ff.5746.static.theplanet.com [70.87.255.178]
22 259 ms 259 ms 259 ms ns1.theplanet.com [207.218.247.135]

Trace complete.
Tracing route to ns1.level3.net [209.244.0.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.16.2
4 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 41.164.0.242
5 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms ix-0-1-6-0.tcore1.KLT-CapeTown.as6453.net [41.206.164.25]
6 126 ms 125 ms 126 ms if-0-3-1.core2.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [195.219.214.57]
7 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms if-0-0-0-2000.tcore1.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [80.231.158.1]
8 152 ms 152 ms 153 ms if-3-2.tcore1.SV8-Highbridge.as6453.net [80.231.158.10]
9 153 ms 153 ms 156 ms if-18-2.tcore2.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.138.10]
10 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms if-2-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.131.2]
11 156 ms 161 ms * Vlan704.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net [80.231.130.10]
12 154 ms 154 ms 153 ms Vlan533.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net [195.219.83.102]
13 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms ae-34-52.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.97]
14 223 ms 223 ms 223 ms ae-42-42.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.137.70]
15 223 ms 232 ms 234 ms ae-61-61.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.66]
16 225 ms 224 ms 225 ms ae-11-69.car1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.16.3]
17 223 ms 223 ms 223 ms ns1.level3.net [209.244.0.1]

Trace complete.
Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.70]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.16.2
4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.0.242
5 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms ix-0-1-6-0.tcore1.KLT-CapeTown.as6453.net [41.206.164.25]
6 126 ms 125 ms 125 ms if-0-3-2.core2.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [195.219.214.33]
7 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms if-0-0-0-2000.tcore1.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [80.231.158.1]
8 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms if-3-2.tcore1.SV8-Highbridge.as6453.net [80.231.158.10]
9 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms if-2-2.tcore2.SV8-Highbridge.as6453.net [80.231.139.1]
10 152 ms 167 ms 152 ms if-9-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.139.18]
11 * 154 ms * Vlan704.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net [80.231.130.10]
12 153 ms 153 ms 154 ms Vlan533.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net [195.219.83.102]
13 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms ae-24-52.car3.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.100]
14 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms 195.50.90.190
15 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms 212.58.238.169
16 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms 212.58.239.58
17 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms 212.58.251.44
18 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms bbc-vip115.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.70]

Trace complete.
Tracing route to www.solnet.ch [212.101.4.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.16.2
4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.0.242
5 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms ix-0-1-6-0.tcore2.KLT-CapeTown.as6453.net [41.206.164.29]
6 152 ms 152 ms 155 ms if-2-2.tcore1.KLT-CapeTown.as6453.net [41.206.164.253]
7 267 ms 207 ms 200 ms if-0-3-2.core2.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [195.219.214.33]
8 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms if-0-0-0-2000.tcore1.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [80.231.158.1]
9 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms if-3-2.tcore1.SV8-Highbridge.as6453.net [80.231.158.10]
10 152 ms 152 ms 154 ms if-18-2.tcore2.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.138.10]
11 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms if-2-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.131.2]
12 164 ms 161 ms * Vlan704.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net [80.231.130.10]
13 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms Vlan533.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net [195.219.83.102]
14 152 ms 152 ms 153 ms ae-34-52.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.97]
15 167 ms 167 ms 167 ms ae-21-21.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.148.186]
16 356 ms 202 ms 204 ms ae-7-7.car2.Zurich1.Level3.net [4.69.133.238]
17 172 ms 173 ms 172 ms ae-11-11.car1.Zurich1.Level3.net [4.69.133.233]
18 173 ms 173 ms 173 ms 212.72.42.50
19 174 ms 174 ms 175 ms d11sol-bbr01-v2.solnet.ch [212.101.0.230]
20 174 ms 174 ms 174 ms joe.solnet.ch [212.101.4.131]

Trace complete.
 
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very nice, thanks alot for the feed back! we have signed for the voice (10 SIP channels) + 2mbps data over microwave (on an SLA) then the 5mbps fibre to the building for pure internet usage and if the fibre does go down we have the 2mbps as a backup... :) all for under 10k p/m
 
I might be geting this though through microwave since the Fiber is not available in my region though they did say if we get a voice setup with them we can get the 5Mbps deal. Hopefully i will also get those rocking speeds ^^.
 
Hory Shet! :eek:

That's some good quallity internetz you have there :p
 
Many thanks for the traceroutes, keep an eye in the below Lisbon link
Very interesting
plenty said:
Tracing route to jolt.co.uk [84.234.17.86]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 41.164.16.2
4 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 41.164.0.242
5 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms ix-0-1-6-0.tcore2.KLT-CapeTown.as6453.net [41.206.164.29]
6 152 ms 153 ms 152 ms if-2-2.tcore1.KLT-CapeTown.as6453.net [41.206.164.253]
7 1185 ms 1211 ms 870 ms if-0-3-2.core2.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [195.219.214.33]
8 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms if-0-0-0-2000.tcore1.PV9-Lisbon.as6453.net [80.231.158.1]
9 152 ms 158 ms 164 ms if-3-2.tcore1.SV8-Highbridge.as6453.net [80.231.158.10]
10 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms if-2-2.tcore2.SV8-Highbridge.as6453.net [80.231.139.1]
11 157 ms 151 ms 152 ms if-9-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.139.18]
12 152 ms 158 ms 161 ms Vlan704.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net [80.231.130.10]
13 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms ldn-b5-link.telia.net [213.248.74.1]
14 152 ms 152 ms 152 ms ldn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.252.209]
15 153 ms 152 ms 152 ms ldn-b4-link.telia.net [80.91.254.22]
16 170 ms 188 ms 206 ms netrinouk-ic-141473-ldn-b4.c.telia.net [213.248.98.134]
17 153 ms 152 ms 152 ms hex-edge.netrino.co.uk [84.234.19.146]
18 154 ms 155 ms 154 ms bs1-core.netrino.co.uk [84.234.19.5]
19 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms bruce.ferrago.net [84.234.17.86]

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Jagtiger said:
And hence paying premium...
Agree.
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We pay R5 100 excl VAT. Which is not a premium when compared to comparative Telkom offerings, but could seem that way when compared to a 4Mbit ADSL pricing.

In fact it's cheap at the price, throw in a couple of SIP channels, Free Installation (and our installation was incredibly involved and difficult, due to the nature of our building and being on the 3rd floor), hardware provided by Neotel and the awesome results we are getting.

The service is light years ahead of ADSL, you can feel the difference between copper and fiber immediately if not for the speed at which things appear and load, it's for the lines sheer ability to cope with anything you can throw at it simultaneously, and without much / or any perceived slowdown.

When we first got the line i plugged directly into the router, gave my machine a Live IP and ran some real world tests, Youtube was a delight, 720 would load well ahead of the playing speed, 1080 maybe not on 5mbps but decent enough.

Torrents were running about 2.6Megabytes a second (well ahead of the supposed 625Kilobytes), and while this was happening, sites were still opening as if the line was empty, and local speedtest.net attempts hitting 52Mbps, without affecting anything else.. the torrents didn't budge, and then the bit you only appreciate when you have experienced it first hand, while all this was going on, I was uploading 620Megs (a few hundred files) to our Server @ MTN Business Gallo Manor at an average of 4.6Mbit (that's CPT - JHB).

It's hard to put a value on the upload capabilities of the fiber alone, it has changed our teams approach to site deployments overnight, and turned a tiresome chore, into a painless 10 min task.
 
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plenty said:
We pay R5 100 excl VAT. Which is not a premium when compared to comparative Telkom offerings, but could seem that way when compared to a 4Mbit ADSL pricing.

In fact it's cheap at the price, throw in a couple of SIP channels, Free Installation (and our installation was incredibly involved and difficult, due to the nature of our building and being on the 3rd floor), hardware provided by Neotel and the awesome results we are getting.

The service is light years ahead of ADSL, you can feel the difference between copper and fiber immediately if not for the speed at which things appear and load, it's for the lines sheer ability to cope with anything you can throw at it simultaneously, and without much / or any perceived slowdown.

When we first got the line i plugged directly into the router, gave my machine a Live IP and ran some real world tests, Youtube was a delight, 720 would load well ahead of the playing speed, 1080 maybe not on 5mbps but decent enough.

Torrents were running about 2.6Megabytes a second (well ahead of the supposed 625Kilobytes), and while this was happening, sites were still opening as if the line was empty, and local speedtest.net attempts hitting 52Mbps, without affecting anything else.. the torrents didn't budge, and then the bit you only appreciate when you have experienced it first hand, while all this was going on, I was uploading 620Megs (a few hundred files) to our Server @ MTN Business Gallo Manor at an average of 4.6Mbit (that's CPT - JHB).

It's hard to put a value on the upload capabilities of the fiber alone, it has changed our teams approach to site deployments overnight, and turned a tiresome chore, into a painless 10 min task.
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I meant in context of home user, and far as I heard they don't install in residential areas.
On overall, it is by miles better than DSL on price and speeds.
(Also I heard that there sometimes problems occur with connection, and very hard to fix due to helpdeck lack and is non-SLA nature).
 
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