Telkom's 8ta exceeds 1 million active subscribers

expect that number to fall drastically in the next few months then we will get a reasonable idea on how good 8ta is doing
 
Been with 8ta from the beginning and have no reason to change. Data speeds great, latency good. OK, admittedly I'm in the city with good coverage all around. Just because the coverage is does not exist outside of the big city does not mean I should not subscribe. Works for me, so making good use of their service.
 
I have to say since I canned my ADSL in favour of 8ta I've not looked back. My landline for some reason has also not given problem in 4 months; if I had 2 straight months without issues when I had ADSL, it was a miracle.

If I had issues, they weren't any different to the issues I have with any other mobile provider, nor were they easier/harder to sort out.
 
I am pleasantly amazed! I honestly didn't think they would make such progress in such a short space of time.

Congratulations and well done, 8.ta!
 
8ta, that's a truckload of subscribers for Telkom's cash cow.

Inquisition into preferential (reduced) IPC costs and broadband prioritization, anyone?

(I'm looking at you, ISPA)
 
I switched to 8ta when they launched. I get on average 40min free every month just from receivieving my usual calls. Something other operators wasn't giving me. Not too mention 55sms for R2.50 a day. They got pretty decent call rate to telkom landline numbers. Most banks and service providers has these 011 or 012 numbers appart from their 0861 numbers so I always look for them and call them cause that saves me so much money.

I actually don't run out of airtime that much with free sms, free data [BIS and 500ms extra you get with bis] and free minutes. Why wouldn't you want to use 8ta?
 
Real impressive:

8ta achieved revenue of R301 million and an EBITDA loss of R1,083 million for the six months ending 30 September 2011
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Every accountants' wet dream... How exactly do you think the Telkom Christmas bonusses are going to work this year- if any top management get anything it will be a bit of a joke, in fact they should be paying back the last few years bonuses. Imagine they used the R1billion lost in the last 6 months on 8ta for the ADSL and national network instead...
 
Well done 8ta, as much as it pains me to say it.

Meanwhile, Neotel struggles to crack 100,000, even though they're only competing against one company and not 3 others.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Well done 8ta, as much as it pains me to say it.

Meanwhile, Neotel struggles to crack 100,000, even though they're only competing against one company and not 3 others.
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I wouldn't be so quick to compliment them, there are already reports of bad service starting to come through on MyBB and having R20 ARPU with a EBITDA loss of 3 times your turnover (6 month results) is not really something to be proud of. Remember this money could have gone in to fibre backhaul to ADSL exchanges and improved equipment in the exchanges themselves. Maybe even some FTTc/H...

I wonder if 8ta have made back the money on the cost of the sim cards alone...

Anyone can look good vs NeoFAIL, it seems like they have tried to find ways to stop people buying their services as much as possible.
 
Bern said:
I wouldn't be so quick to compliment them, there are already reports of bad service starting to come through on MyBB and having R20 ARPU with a EBITDA loss of 3 times your turnover (6 month results) is not really something to be proud of. Remember this money could have gone in to fibre backhaul to ADSL exchanges and improved equipment in the exchanges themselves. Maybe even some FTTc/H...

I wonder if 8ta have made back the money on the cost of the sim cards alone...

Anyone can look good vs NeoFAIL, it seems like they have tried to find ways to stop people buying their services as much as possible.
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How long did it take Cell C to become profitable? Oh, I forgot, they're also still in the red....
 
Bern said:
I wouldn't be so quick to compliment them, there are already reports of bad service starting to come through on MyBB and having R20 ARPU with a EBITDA loss of 3 times your turnover (6 month results) is not really something to be proud of. Remember this money could have gone in to fibre backhaul to ADSL exchanges and improved equipment in the exchanges themselves. Maybe even some FTTc/H...

I wonder if 8ta have made back the money on the cost of the sim cards alone...

Anyone can look good vs NeoFAIL, it seems like they have tried to find ways to stop people buying their services as much as possible.
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Your comment infers that they made a loss of R1 billion whereas article says R1 million.A loss of R1 million, given that network is in its infancy and they have been running the R199 special for a number of months now, is actually quite impressive.

I would have expected the loss to be a lot more.
 
1 Million customers is a milestone. Well done 8ta.

Most of the 1 million users doesn't know/worry about latency and so on. So I do not think that should be an issue in the future. As long as 8ta keeps expanding in coverage.
 
ajules said:
Your comment infers that they made a loss of R1 billion whereas article says R1 million.A loss of R1 million, given that network is in its infancy and they have been running the R199 special for a number of months now, is actually quite impressive.

I would have expected the loss to be a lot more.
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Article states
8ta achieved revenue of R301 million and an EBITDA loss of R1,083 million for the six months ending 30 September 2011.
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that is about a billion... For verification see http://www.iol.co.za/business/business-news/8-ta-naysayers-were-right-1.1183367 - here is a quote from that article:

For the half-year 8.ta posted revenue of R301 million, but it made a loss in earnings before interest, taxation, depreciation and amortisation (Ebitda) of R1.1bn, adding to an earlier R1bn loss during the first five months of operation. By year end, 8.ta is expected to realise up to R2.2bn in Ebitda losses
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@ MickeyD
I realise they are expected to make a loss for some time trying to roll out a mobile network and was not comparing them to Cell C (or the others for that matter), but rather what Telkom could have done with that money that could have been to their and our benefit. Imagine Telkom invested all that money in the fixed line infrastructure. The point is also most cellular networks take many years to become profitable, so basically Telkom is going to be sinking money in to this instead of fixed line infrastructure, imagine they rather put in a fibre backhaul network to every town in SA, they could make a killing off selling backhaul to VC/MTN/CellC as a starting point.

Now look at the trend for interconnect rates and technology changes (IP based telephony making normal interconnect redundant) and tell me you don't think that rather focussing on having the best data network on the country is a better business plan? DFA and Fibreco are proof that Telkom is leaving a gaping hole in the market by investing in things they are not really good at.
 
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