Windows head Steven Sinofsky leaves Microsoft

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Steven Sinofsky, the Microsoft executive in charge of Windows, has left the company. Julie Larson-Green is to assume control of Windows software and hardware engineering, and CFO Tami Reller will be in charge of the Windows business. The changes are effective immediately, and no reason was given for Sinofsky's departure.

Full article here : http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/12/3638118/steven-sinofsky-leaving-microsoft
 
Hmmm, CNN's article kinda hints that he was becoming too much of a LEGEND compared to Ballmer.

/takes tin hat off

Maybe he is just tired of corporate BS?
 
Good riddance who needs those abrasive creative types in Microsoft anyway. More Ballmerites please, that's the MS we've come to know and love. Best thing Apple ever did was firing that creative loonytune CEO guy that one time.
 
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Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse... <cue Jaws music>

Julie Larson-Green has been at Microsoft since 1993 and was responsible for program management, user interface design, and research on Windows 7 and 8.

The sadist who developed metro is now in charge of windows. <cue screams of horror> I just felt a cold chill down my spine.
 
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse... <cue Jaws music>



The sadist who developed metro is now in charge of windows. <cue screams of horror> I just felt a cold chill down my spine.

Same sadist that designed the Aero you so love?
 
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse... <cue Jaws music>



The sadist who developed metro is now in charge of windows. <cue screams of horror> I just felt a cold chill down my spine.

haha....I wouldn't go so far as to call her a sadist! :p

I still think Windows 8 has a bright future on Surface tablets.
 
You notice how I bolded "7 and 8". XP was the pinnacle of UI design on the desktop.

[-]Fair enough[/-] Wait no, you like the XP interface more than the Win7 one? Interesting.
 
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You notice how I bolded "7 and 8". XP was the pinnacle of UI design on the desktop.

Please don't say you believe that?

My pinnacle was Window Maker/Fluxbox/Blackbox. I have yet to come across a UI that was so productive. It had no start screen/button but you could right click anywhere on the desktop to get a full list of applications. You could "tear" off any sub menu and place it where you feel like, best is they could be set to auto-hide on the sides. <-- all done with a series of mouse clicks and moves.

Funny enough Window Maker roots back to NeXT, yep Steve Jobs's old company, also the root for OS X today. Sadly they left behind all the tweaks I loved.
 

As I suspected, clash in departments, oh and above URL quoted for those thats on tablets/phones:

Sources inside Microsoft say a clash of personalities led to Sinofsky's departure

The abrupt departure of Windows and Windows Live President Steven Sinofsky this evening has surprised many in the Microsoft community considering that he's hot off the launch of Windows 8 and Surface, two of Redmond's most important products in the last decade. There had been persistent rumblings that the man who oversaw the launch of Windows 8 was in line for a larger role in the company, perhaps even as the heir to CEO Steve Ballmer. However, multiple sources within Microsoft describe Sinofsky as abrasive and off-putting, aggressively maintaining his control over products and putting up roadblocks for products that would have any potential to diminish the Windows (and therefore his) power — an attitude rumored to be shared by Apple's recently-deposed iOS chief Scott Forstall.

Critically, Sinofsky was not ousted because of any issues with the launch of Windows 8 or the Surface, sources tell us; in fact, it's possible that his departure was already planned, but his ability to execute on Windows 8's retail release was seen as an asset worth keeping him around long enough to see it through. But his attitude (and skill set) as an aggressive, tightly-siloed Windows boss — not a holistic Microsoft boss — may have done him in. Given that the future of Microsoft's ecosystem would require tight collaboration between disparate divisions, Sinofsky's future path as an executive at Microsoft was essentially at an end.

Microsoft's Larry Lieberman recently referenced a famous comic of the company's organizational structure, depicting different departments as isolated fiefdoms holding guns at one another, admitting that there's "a little bit" of truth to it. Products like Windows Phone 8, Xbox Music, SmartGlass, Windows RT, and Surface clearly need to break out of that mentality, and people familiar with the matter say that Sinofsky simply wasn't that kind of team player — he was laser-focused on Windows and Surface with seemingly little regard for the remainder of Microsoft's kingdom.

That Sinofsky hasn't meshed well with other teams within Microsoft is no surprise — sources tell The Verge that as far back as the scuttled Courier tablet project, he was seen as a divisive force inside the company that creative forces like J Allard grew unwilling to work with.

Our sources have stopped short of calling Sinofsky's departure an outright firing, but it seems that there are few inside Microsoft's senior ranks that are sorry to see him go.
 
Please don't say you believe that?

My pinnacle was Window Maker/Fluxbox/Blackbox. I have yet to come across a UI that was so productive. It had no start screen/button but you could right click anywhere on the desktop to get a full list of applications. You could "tear" off any sub menu and place it where you feel like, best is they could be set to auto-hide on the sides. <-- all done with a series of mouse clicks and moves.

Funny enough Window Maker roots back to NeXT, yep Steve Jobs's old company, also the root for OS X today. Sadly they left behind all the tweaks I loved.

Yes seriously. Windows XP had it right. Taskbar with open apps, quicklaunch with "used everyday" apps, desktop with "used regularly" apps and start menu with "used rarely" apps. And the start menu opened fully if your screen was big enough (and most PC screens were), so no scrolling. Windows 7 hid quicklaunch, turned informative, labelled taskbar apps into big icons without any information, and made me search or scroll through the start menu. Windows 8 is even worse. Metro is like having 2 OSs to keep track of because metro apps don't appear on the taskbar. The start menu looks like my desktop, except it's less flexible and now needs even more scrolling. And fewer of my apps work properly.

Whatever improvements were made from XP to 7, they weren't in the UI.

I haven't used the interface you're talking about, but it sounds interesting. Although interfaces that are designed for low res CRT monitors don't always scale well to our modern high res multi-monitor set ups.
 
I haven't used the interface you're talking about, but it sounds interesting. Although interfaces that are designed for low res CRT monitors don't always scale well to our modern high res multi-monitor set ups.

It was waaaaay ahead of its time. You can see some of its legacy in Enlightment(E17) http://youtu.be/zCCLKok6d_s

Having your menu follow your mouse makes it esp great for multi monitor set-ups.
 
Interesting how the abrasive individualistic types are kicked out in favour of team players. We live in an integration tech society now where a silo mentality is a career ender. I see this in my own setup as well. No matter your IQ and creative genius ... if you cannot "integrate" you're out. Synergy (1+1 = 3) is now king.
 
Bottom line: To be special is not that special anymore. The value of "special" is shifting to the value of the swarm, not the individual.

Youngsters should take note.
 
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