Buzybuy - Uncapped. Any good?

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I just wanna know if anyone has or is using buzybuy and how the general experience is.

I mailed them about their AUP/FUP and this their reply

Hi Gboss,

Thanks for the feedback.

We do not have any AUP of our own.
We are of course still bound to the rules of our backbone providers as they control the network connectivity.
There is no throttling or warnings if you exceed x amount of GBs with us.
Also we do not have any rolling windows, etc.
With our uncapped ADSL you can download as much as you like. We have clients downloading over 300GBs per month.

So of course as stated previously, your account won't be throttled by us but shaping still applies.
So if the network load is high and during peak times it will automatically give less priority to downloads such as P2P.
This is standard shaping across all ISPs and is done by the backbone providers.

Hope this clears up all the questions you may have.
Feel free to contact us should you have any more questions.

Thank you.

Regards,
The Buzybuy Team.

An ISP without an AUP/FUP...... do such things actually exist???

It kinda sounds like they offering the MWEB "Premium" type of uncapped, so no throttling just protocol prioritization.

The part in bold worries me slightly as they offer you a choice between the IS backbone or the MTN backbone.
So which is better IS or MTN? Judging by the length of the Afrihost Uncapped thread I'm assuming IS is the better option.
 
IS use the 80/20% & 50/50% 10 day rolling window. no getting away from that.

MTN i dont kno about. Afrihost use them and had endless problems since they changed. we dont kno if the problems are with afrihost or with MTN.

I'm going to give Buzybuy and MTN a try. they manage my hosting and i'm a very happy customer.
 
mika1000 said:
IS use the 80/20% & 50/50% 10 day rolling window. no getting away from that.

MTN i dont kno about. Afrihost use them and had endless problems since they changed. we dont kno if the problems are with afrihost or with MTN.

I'm going to give Buzybuy and MTN a try. they manage my hosting and i'm a very happy customer.
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Their reply states that they do not use any rolling windows etc. Web Africa is moving to IS too and they say that they too will not have any rolling windows.

I'm just afraid of MTN after reading the Afrihost horror stories.
 
There is no rolling windows.... That is old. The Top 80% on 1Mbps and lower will be shaped and the Top50% of 2Mbps and higher will be shaped.

You will get a star rating of 1-5 based on how close you are to the Top %.

Example:

1. You have a 4Mbps uncapped account. You are in the top 50% right now. So basically your account has a 1 star rating meaning you will be shaped during peak times.

2. You just got the account. Your account now has a 5 star rating which means access is relatively unshaped until you hit the Top20% or Top50% respectively. Your rating will drop or go up depending on your usage if that makes sense.
 
@Cavedog - So what you are basically saying if I am on the IS backbone my traffic is unshaped until I hit the top 50% (2MB account) thereafter my traffic is shaped. That doesnt sound like too bad a deal right? I mean being shaped when in the Top 50% is better than being throttled to 1 tenth of your line speed. MWEB Premium currnetly shapes when their network is busy, with torrents being shaped to death regardless of whether network utilization is high or not.

I'm not a heavy downloader, I average around 80-100GB with the most being around 180GB on a month when there are a lot of new Linux Distro's released ;)

I think I'm going to give these guys a whirl from 1 March - especially since if I aint happy I can cancel before the 25th of the month and not have to wait 30 days
 
Gboss said:
@Cavedog - So what you are basically saying if I am on the IS backbone my traffic is unshaped until I hit the top 50% (2MB account) thereafter my traffic is shaped. That doesnt sound like too bad a deal right? I mean being shaped when in the Top 50% is better than being throttled to 1 tenth of your line speed. MWEB Premium currnetly shapes when their network is busy, with torrents being shaped to death regardless of whether network utilization is high or not.

I'm not a heavy downloader, I average around 80-100GB with the most being around 180GB on a month when there are a lot of new Linux Distro's released ;)

I think I'm going to give these guys a whirl from 1 March - especially since if I aint happy I can cancel before the 25th of the month and not have to wait 30 days
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In theory yes that is how it is explained on most IS resellers website. I know that over weekends and 5PM to 7:30AM during the week you will most likely get full speed irrespective if you are in the Top50% or not. The Top 50% mostly only counts during working hours.

You will most likely notice when you get the account its full speed 24/7 and will notice that it gets shaped more the more data you use.

I use a 4Mbps uncapped account. Hitting 120GB speeds were starting to get slower during the day but afterhours was full speed ahead. I think these accounts are similar to those offered by plugg.

The accounts are managed by IS themselfs and is only sold through resellers like buzybuy,gconnect, openweb vanilla,propertiere ect. They sell accounts and do not have x amount of bandwidth from IS.

ISP's like Openweb, Webafrica and Vox have a little bit more control over what they do with the accounts.

PS: I am open to corrections if I am wrong.
 
@Cavedog - The IS accounts dont seem to bad then. I take it you have no issues with using IS as your ISP then? Would you recommend using an IS reseller?
 
Gboss said:
@Cavedog - The IS accounts dont seem to bad then. I take it you have no issues with using IS as your ISP then? Would you recommend using an IS reseller?
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Well I always shop for better deals so I'm always moving. I'm very keen to try out the new webafrica uncapped accounts. Looks like they will be good. Very easy star rating system so you know when you going to get shaped. So that look great for me but it ultimately up to you.

http://2share.co.za/Files/webafrica.png
 
Thanks Cavedog, I did PM WAJeff asking about their move to IS but he says they cant provide me a uncapped test account only a 5GB capped test account. Capped accounts get better priority over uncapped so it would not be a fair comparison.

I think I'll try these buzybuy guys out and I'll post my experience after the 1st March. They dont have a 30 day cancellation policy, as long as I cancel before the 25th then I'm free to join another ISP at the end of the month.

If you go with WA I'm keen to hear how it goes.
 
Capped accounts get better priority over uncapped so it would not be a fair comparison.
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Actually it was stated that the capped accounts get the same prioritisation as the uncapped accounts running on 5 stars and the capped accounts as well as all new uncapped accounts are already on the IS backbone. Existing customers get moved over from today I think.

I bought a 2GB WA account and it performed well, but decided to see how the OpenWeb vanilla accounts perform before deciding to leave them and am still happy at this point.
 
@Kalster - I doubt whether thats entirely true because capped accounts are unshaped whereas uncapped accounts are shaped. I get that they might share priority but when the network is busy the uncapped accounts will be shaped, so unless WA uncapped is unshaped I dont believe that comparing capped to uncapped is a fair comparison.
 
Buzybuy just mailed me my username and password, account active 1 March....
 
Buzybuy Update:

It seems that Buzybuy is actually a WA reseller, I confirmed this by logging into http://dsl.wa.co.za/ and I was able to view the Star rating for my account.

I started downlaoding a torrent to check the speed, it was early this morning (5am) and I was getting between 170-200kbps. Very much on par with how my Plugg test account that I had. I'll post again after the weekend, thats when I'll give the HTTP and NNTP a spin.

Below are the results of the mybroadband speedtest

Your Latest Results
Test conducted on Friday, March 01, 2013 6:57:21 AM

Download Speed: 1740 kbps (217.5 KB/sec transfer rate)

Upload Speed: 378 kbps (47.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

Latency: 48 ms

(The test results are almost identical to my Plugg test account)

If things continue this way for the rest of the month I think I'll cut the middle man out and go direct to WA
 
An ISP without an AUP/FUP...... do such things actually exist???

yes they do, Usually these ISP's re sell other ISP accounts.

EDIT: I see it was mentioned they resell webafrica accounts. So that is now confirmed.
 
Buzybuy resell IS and MTN accounts.

They got no AUP/FUP from their side. If there's shaping its coming from IS or MTN.

All IS accounts now work with a star system.
 
cavedog said:
Wow that is quite a bomshell there. So they sell webafrica accounts that sell IS accounts. Interesting.

Looks like your other option is gconnect which sells TRUE IS based uncapped accounts that you are able to check usage http://users.isdsl.net/

It also allows for 2 connections unlike the webafrica one
https://gconnect.wirelessg.co.za/uncappedadsl.aspx
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i would stay away from gconnect. took their vanetines day special but they deactivated it before i counld use it.
 
@Cavedog - Yeah I know, I was shocked too. I suspected something was fishy when the username I received was buzybuy.com.is*****@wa LOL
I then googled 1 of the DNS servers IP and voila DNS server belongs to WA.
I keep remoting back to my PC at home via Teamviewer and my torrent is downloading at 150-160kbps

If things go well I'll move over to WA, I dont have a need for 2 simultaneous connections so that isn't a factor in choosing an ISP for me.
 
mika1000 said:
i would stay away from gconnect. took their vanetines day special but they deactivated it before i counld use it.
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Strange cause I still have my gconnect valentines 1Mbps uncapped account that I used in Feb a bit and its working for march too. :-)
 
Whats the gconnect accounts like? NNTP, HTTP, Torrents etc?
 
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