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Question of the Day: What is your non-negotiable item, device, or app for international travel?
Almond Milk
- Thread starter Mila
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Where can I buy it in Boerewors Town ( Pretoria )
How horrible is it ( compared to milk)
Thanx
It is horrible schit and nobody should be caught making it. If you are lactose intolerant, then fine, put yourself through it if you really want some nut-flavoured water (that's really all it is). There are dairy alternatives if you are lactose intolerant - read on.
If you are trying to stay healthy and/or lose weight, then don't be a fscking moron - drink full cream (whole) milk. The fats in whole milk are mostly good fats - you need them and consuming them in the quantities you'd consume milk is actually very good for you. Studies show that whole milk will help you lose weight quicker than skim milk by the way.
Milk is good for you. Lactose sugars are good for you in comparison to other sugars like sucrose, which is table sugar. Milk proteins (mostly caseins) have amino acid structures that are incredibly good for humans (if you can consume them). They are metabolised better than most other whey proteins, so if you're active, it will help you to lose fat and put on muscle far more efficiently than whey protein powders. Just drink milk ffs. It is ful of lactoglobulin and lactalbumin.
Bottom line is that if you are lactose intolerant, simply find a lactose-free milk. They add lactase enzymes to the milk which converts the lactose sugars into glucose sugars instead, and you're set. Although more expensive than ordinary milk, it is far, far cheaper than making god-awful almond milk, which is not milk at all. In fact you can achieve the same result as almond milk by adding nut flavour droplets to water and mixing in some corn starch. There is a reason why almond milk is flavoured in commercial production - because on its own it is disgusting stuff. It also has an incredibly low protein content so is in absolutely no way a substitute for milk - especially for kids and teenagers. They really shouldn't be drinking the stuff as an alternative to milk, and nor should adults.
If you are not lactose intolerant, then just drink whole milk. Really, drink the stuff. It is good for you.
If you are a vegan, well then there is no hope for you and you deserve almond milk!
If you want the health benefits of almonds, then eat a fscking almond. You'll also get all of the dietary fibre associated with it...
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Ockie
Resident Lead Bender
Will look out for it. Is it much more expensive than soy?
Only if you're a vegan dipschit. For your ordinary consumers of soy it is fine. Soy is an endocrine disruptor and will cause serious side-effects if you replace meat and dairy with a lot of soy-based products. It is particularly bad for kids and will stunt their growth and cause other issues if kids consume a lot of it.
Additionally for adults, it can and does prevent female menstruation and lowers men's sperm count. In more extreme cases it has been discovered to be the causative agent for numerous cancers in both men and women, undescended testicles in men, and cystic ovaries and endometriosis in women.
For your average Joe though, you're unlikely to fall victim to any of these if you simply eat a balanced diet that is not predominantly soy based...
Ockie
Resident Lead Bender
Oh dear god! Never will I be able to eat taht Fries or Fry's veggie stuff again! NEVER!!!!
/feels to make sure tesicticle still there!
Soy has an incredibly high phyto-oestrogen content which has been singled out as a causative factor in leukemia and breast cancer. Anyone with a history of cancer in their family, or any cancer sufferers should steer well clear of un-fermented soy products, as they do contribute to tumour growth...
Yip, fermentation of soy releases and breaks down the various chemicals responsible for soy's adverse health aspects. There are numerous phytates, enzymes and goitrogens in soy that are really bad for you, and they tend to affect women more than men...
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Nerfherder
Honorary Master
There is this dude at some of the CT markets who sells Almond butter and cheese. Apparently its as sif as it sounds.
If you go and order something from the meat stalls he will give you a death stare from across the room, its the creepiest thing. This guy is like the worst possible hippy imaginable.
Thats more than enough reason to not drink nut milk
(LOL nut milk)
If you go and order something from the meat stalls he will give you a death stare from across the room, its the creepiest thing. This guy is like the worst possible hippy imaginable.
Thats more than enough reason to not drink nut milk
(LOL nut milk)
Those things are hardly healthy to begin with. They are full to the brim with chemicals to help replicate meat protein structures and oils to emulsify into flavour carriers.
These days there is considerable research into high pressure steam and temperature differential treatment of bean proteins to replicate meat protein strand lengths and firmness for vegetarian foods which I find fascinating, but we are a long way off from commercial production thereof. Until then your soy-based patties and other meat replicators will be full to the brim with very high quantities of stabilisers and emulsifiers, which in ordinary quantities is perfectly safe, but in vegan quantities taken daily or often - well, not so much.
You also have pseudo-plasticity additives to replicate chewiness. The stuff you find in chewing gum is now added to veggie based products.
They claim that it is all natural, and they are right. Many of the products are completely natural, but that doesn't mean it is good for you. Various berries in a forest will kill you - you wouldn't go around eating them. Just because they claim that something is natural does not make it good for you...
Mila
Honorary Master
IT's just for cooking Thanx DJ. I'm lactose intolerant and years of drinking soy 
makes me taste it even when hidden in food.
So I read about almond milk just though it might be less disgusting than that digest milk from parmalat.
I'll rather stick to yogurt it doesn't make me sick.
Thanx DJ. I'm lactose intolerant and years of drinking soy makes me taste it even when hidden in food. So I read about almond milk just though it might be less disgusting than that digest milk from parmalat.
I'll rather stick to yogurt it doesn't make me sick.
Hosehead
Executive Member
Don't bother. It's full of chemicals. Look in a Thai store for coconut water and no, its not cheaper-only because there's no demand. But plenty of "milk" around and not expensive at all
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Hosehead
Executive Member
Oh go and stick a shiv in his back. He won't stare anymore. Tell you what I' ll go and get a couple of Big Macs and eat them in front of him next week and stare at him as I slowly chew.
This is a myth, there is no evidence that soy makes you grow boobs
Azbubu
Honorary Master
I was being sensationalist. It might not make you grow boobs per se but there is evidence that it raises your estrogen levels.
IT's just for cooking
So I read about almond milk just though it might be less disgusting than that digest milk from parmalat.
I'll rather stick to yogurt it doesn't make me sick.
Parmalat do a lactase additive milk which is lactose-free. I've tasted them and they taste 95% like lactose sugar milk. Get hold of parmalat (+27 21 809 1400) and ask for a local EasyGest milk outlet.
Goat's milk is another option, if you like drinking things that taste like an animal farm.
Almond milk is just water. It is white because almonds are white. Semen in the right dilutions will also resemble milk - doesn't mean it is a milk substitute (even though the stuff is incredibly healthy for you
)Soy milk is not fermented so I'd steer clear of it too.
Milk is an emulsion of dairy fats and proteins suspended in water. The flavour, texture, colour all come from the dairy. There is no suitable replication of the ratios of dairy fats and protein in anything else in any way remotely suitable. Nut fats are completely different to dairy fats and are typically incredibly low in protein. Soy has next to no fat and the proteins can be quite bad for you, particularly if you have a bad stomach to begin with. It is a well researched endocrine disruptor...
Hosehead
Executive Member
Goat's milk is another option, if you like drinking things that taste like an animal farm.
Hard to find in the Cape. One of the farms has a goats milk that doesn't taste or smell of Billy. I've been trying to track it for ages.
Want to switch the kid over from Cows milk.
Yip! phytoestrogens simply mimic estrogen and do not result in the same physiological reactions. In fact it is known that increasing phytoestrogen levels in women decreases their estrogen level as the two fight for a place on the estrogen receptors, so it will in fact have the opposite effect.
In men, it has been known to reduce testosterone, but not really to a noticeable degree, and not for all men, so there might be something else at play here. Perhaps living with a vegan bitch who makes you drink soy milk is the emasculating bit, and not the soy milk itself...
Hosehead
Executive Member
No, it raises your phytoestrogen levels, and in doing so will decrease your estrogen levels. We have a limited number of estrogen receptors in our body and the two cannot exist at the same time on a single receptor. Ergo, it reduces estrogen. Phytoestrogen, although it mimics some effects, doesn't necessarily have the same effects as estrogen on the male, nor the female body, which is probably why plants don't need to be cuddled for an hour after being pollinated...
Meh. Hippie bullschit. What is lost through pasteurisation (which has come a very long way since the early days) is mostly fortified back into the milk, and in many cases is fortified with better synthsised versions of various nutrients which are easier to metabolise in the human body. The pasteurisation claims make little sense imo.
Raw milk is also rather dangerous in that the bacteria will remain present. Given to the elderly, pregnant women, immune compromised people and kids, and you have a serious problem on your hands. The homogenisation theory has been tested and no evidence exists for that one single dipschit's assertion in the 70s that it led to greater heart disease - see here - http://www.ajcn.org/content/38/2/327.long