Potential NSA spying on South African networks

hehe...yes I realized that too when I read the Spiegel report.

Also checked for Seacom outages during that time but the dates didn't overlap. iirc that was the time when that rogue ship allegedly nailed a bunch of cables with its anchor.

Realistically though...I don't think SA is interesting enough. If the NSA really wanted SA info they could just find a politician and request a quote. I'm sure there are enough enterprising individuals that could use some extra spending money.
 
HavocXphere said:
Also checked for Seacom outages during that time but the dates didn't overlap.
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As I have it, Spiegel reported that the NSA had SMW4 by 13 Feb 2013, and the Seacom outage was in March 2013, so there is a (short) overlap.

HavocXphere said:
If the NSA really wanted SA info they could just find a politician and request a quote.
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:D

Much cheaper to just re-use a hack they did for spying on another country ;)
 
Jan said:
As I have it, Spiegel reported that the NSA had SMW4 by 13 Feb 2013, and the Seacom outage was in March 2013, so there is a (short) overlap.
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The dates are the wrong way around though - the outage would have to be before the access not the other way round.

I meant this this though - same issue...wrong way round. Plus don't know what fire they're talking about.

14:51GMT SEACOM Outage
14 FEBRUARY 2013
Repair team is on site for the first repair. Outage on this route was caused by a fire.
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Potential?

...and can we really call them "South African Networks" (honest inquiry) ?
 
Things may change ...

Arthur said:
Why bother about the NSA? Much more ad rem is the spying by our own State apparatus.
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Not necessarily: the US might be something of a friendly power at the moment, but in a few years time, when the ANC is history, and Obamacare has turned the USA into the State Religion of the Supreme Obamaism, we may again have reason to trust our local spooks over foreign spooks.
 
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Arthur said:
Why bother about the NSA? Much more ad rem is the spying by our own State apparatus.
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Any spying of this nature and magnitude is of serious concern. There are a lot of bartering happening between the various international agencies. When the US wants something from our State Security Agency they will offer something of value in return (and the oher way 'round). There are also secret cooperation agreements that make the exchange of information possible.
 
BeVonk! said:
Any spying of this nature and magnitude is of serious concern. There are a lot of bartering happening between the various international agencies. When the US wants something from our State Security Agency they will offer something of value in return (and the oher way 'round). There are also secret cooperation agreements that make the exchange of information possible.
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:sick:
 
Syria, One Korea, Osama, jihad, Al Qaeda, infidels, Toronto Maple Leafs, IRA, Sinn Fein, Tamil Tigers, FARC, nuclear, nuke, dirty bomb, retaliation, assassination.


There. Now they're definitely spying.
 
Ninja'd said:
Syria, One Korea, Osama, jihad, Al Qaeda, infidels, Toronto Maple Leafs, IRA, Sinn Fein, Tamil Tigers, FARC, nuclear, nuke, dirty bomb, retaliation, assassination.


There. Now they're definitely spying.
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Now they are going to tap your phone lines.
 
"Senator Dianne Feinstein: NSA Metadata Program Here To Stay"

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/01...e-feinstein-nsa-metadata-program-here-to-stay

"The president has very clearly said that he wants to keep the capability So I think we would agree with him. I know a dominant majority of the — everybody, virtually, except two or three, on the Senate Intelligence Committee would agree with that." ... "A lot of the privacy people, perhaps, don't understand that we still occupy the role of the Great Satan. New bombs are being devised. New terrorists are emerging, new groups, actually, a new level of viciousness," Feinstein said. "We need to be prepared. I think we need to do it in a way that respects people's privacy rights." *Cough*
 
I hope this helps to keep the USA safe and I fully support all the efforts put into trying to keep terrorists from living freely among law abiding citizens, especially here in SA where anyone can just arrive at any port of entry and buy up property. Being respected in SA goes hand in hand with lots of money all the time. :D

The truth hurts but without these interventions people in the USA and other parts of the world are just sitting ducks waiting for the next terror attack. Think before you slam this move from the US government. ;)
 
Ryansr said:
I hope this helps to keep the USA safe and I fully support all the efforts put into trying to keep terrorists from living freely among law abiding citizens, especially here in SA where anyone can just arrive at any port of entry and buy up property. Being respected in SA goes hand in hand with lots of money all the time. :D

The truth hurts but without these interventions people in the USA and other parts of the world are just sitting ducks waiting for the next terror attack. Think before you slam this move from the US government. ;)
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Hearsay from the link above, a quote from slashdot Anonymous Coward:

"It [NSA spying] should be far more useful than it has been. So far, it's been useless, according to all of the Snowden documents. No benefit has been gained from it. Zero. Nada. Zilch. It's worthless."

"Riddle me this, Batman: Why didn't the NSA stop the Target data breach? They surely could've seen it coming. They surely should've seen its traffic while it was in action. Why haven't they tracked down the perpetrator and thrown his ass in Gitmo? He's cost the economy something far more than a few billion dollars. He cost it confidence. That's a threat to national security and stability. Where is the NSA? Somewhere in a datacenter, doing ****-all about the real security issues facing the nation, that's where."

The next guy says:

"Forget the Target breach, how about the Boston Marathon bombing? That was exactly the kind of attack this program is being sold as preventing. And it didn't. Yet we still have it and it still hurts us."

"naasking" says:

"I don't think she understands "preparation" "A critical requirement of preparation is evidence of the effectiveness of your preparation. Where's the evidence that dragnet surveillance is effective?"

Ryansr said:
Think before you slam this move from the US government. ;)
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It wasn't a "move" really, it's something that's been around a while and "revealed" (to some degree)...

...but yes, maybe we should think...they've got pretty mean-looking killer robots...and laser-beams!
 
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