Movie Club Edition Six: Fargo - SPOILERS

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****The discussion starts Monday 13th April 2015****

Fargo is a 1996 American neo-noir dark comedy crime film written, produced, edited, and directed by Joel and Ethan Coen. It stars Frances McDormand as a pregnant Minnesota police chief who investigates a series of local homicides, and William H. Macy as a struggling car salesman who hires two criminals to kidnap his wife.

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**A review is encouraged, and a star review out of 5 is preferred over a /10 score.

0 - Couldn't finish it was so bad
1- Horrible
2 - Very Bad
2.5 -OK <- just to be in the middle
3 - Good/Very Good
4- Excellent
5 - Perfect

Previous Discussion Threads:
1. Vertigo
2. Chinatown
3. Blue Velvet
4. Angel Heart
5. Porco Rosso
 
Go Bears...

Man, that prostitute cracked me up big time.

I love this movie. The acting is amazing from all corners, especially Macy and McDormand. I love the story, the idiocy, the horror leading to comedy of errors. It's a fairly straightforward story about deception, good vs evil and all that, but the beauty is in the details.

4.5/5 for me.
 
The first time I watched this, I didn't get what the big deal is and why it is seen as such a classic. I have since watched the tv show and by doing so understand the whole thing better.

On second viewing it was not like this awesome experience, or life changing. But i can appreciate what the movie is, or trying to be. I think the first time I was trying to take this movie a little too serious.

It's quite straight forward, and does not have a lot of subtext. What you see is what you get. Everyone is a little retarded.

If I had to recommend this movie to someone, I would definitely set the expectations right, as you have to be in the right mindset to appreciate it.

I'll still give it a 4/5, as it really is something that everyone should watch.
 
Awesome film, love the brutality and incompetence of it all. All the little things that lead to escalation of violence from those involved and McDormand's character seemingly unable to understand why people would go to such lengths for "a little bit of money". So many good performances - McDormand, Macy, Buscemi and Stormare. Even though the overall plot is fiction all the little incidents ring true to life, how cheap life can be and how easily things can awry..

And love the following line "I'm not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work, there, Lou."

4.5/5.
 
What a depressing setting for a movie. Can't say that I enjoyed it but a good performance by William H. Macy.

3/5
 
4.5/5.

I'm leaning towards thinking that this is the best Coen brothers movie. The humour is incredibly dark, the violence is brutal, and everything is suffused with a sense of drowning in mediocrity, psychopathy, desperation, pointlessness and avarice - and snow. It mercilessly strips the glamour from the screwball crime caper genre, with a cast of geeky lowlife losers and Dakota-accented prostitutes, and sod's law governing every transaction. However Francis McDormand's exceptional performance humanizes the Coens' bleaker tendencies, with the result that at the end, despite the tragicomedy of horrific stupidity and carnage, the tone is optimistic and warm rather than sneering and amoral.
 
Loved this movie both times that I've seen it.

4.5/5 for me as well.

Frances McDormand gives life and humanity to a bleak narrative and character set. I always enjoyed the immigrant-heavy accents, lending a kind of superficial, ignorant innocence to the characters. It has this undercurrent of chaos and darkness that briefly shines through most of the characters when faced with slightly daunting prospects. Brilliantly executed.

I remember being very suspicious of the tv show, but quickly fell in love with that, too. Quite a feat, I reckon, considering the importance of atmosphere to the whole idea.
 
Exceptional movie. Great way of making complicated things simple and simple things complicated. How quickly things snowballed out of control...fitting in beautifully with the setting.

My third viewing.

4.5 / 5
 
Am on my phone...will post a review later. Anyone else think that scene with Mike Yanagita could have been dropped? Didn't get the point of that, tbh.
 
Am on my phone...will post a review later. Anyone else think that scene with Mike Yanagita could have been dropped? Didn't get the point of that, tbh.

It's a funny scene. I think the point of it is that Margie starts thinking that maybe she was as naive in trusting Jerry's word as she was Mike's, hence her follow-up visit to Jerry's office.
 
It's quite straight forward, and does not have a lot of subtext. What you see is what you get. Everyone is a little retarded.


Years ago I rented this from the video shop but stopped watching 20mins in and forgot why I stopped watching it. Well now I remember, just about every character annoys the living crap out of me, they're all so fscking useless & the entire Minnesota populace seems retarded & the accent does not help.

I get the dark comedy & all that but everything is just so annoying. Well at least I finished it this time but I won't ever watch it again, not my favourite Coen bros movie to put it mildly.

2.5/5
 
It's a funny scene. I think the point of it is that Margie starts thinking that maybe she was as naive in trusting Jerry's word as she was Mike's, hence her follow-up visit to Jerry's office.

Good spot...didn't think of it like that. Didn't find it funny in the slightest but at least narratively, you've given me a reason for it. Dude's pitiful rather than funny.
 
I don't get how people are saying the violence portrayed in the movie is butal but I i must admit that wood chipper scene was disturbing and comical at the same time. WTF?
 
I don't get how people are saying the violence portrayed in the movie is butal but I i must admit that wood chipper scene was disturbing and comical at the same time. WTF?

Not really what was shown, just the callous nature of it - Buscemi's character having a bad day so he shoots the Father without so much as a warning. The rather trivial disagreement about the money for the car leading him getting killed with an axe... Stormare's character killing the wife because she was "making noise"...
 
I also didn't much like the Mike Yanagita character. It seems like they just make the most abjectly failed portrait of a man that they could conceive of for not much purpose other than to humiliate him - and neoprod is right, it just isn't funny. However, from a thematic perspective, there is a lot of emasculation and impotent, frustrated men, and the action in the film is largely propelled by their reactions against their lives of failure, grasping after pathetic signs of status (Jerry is a car salesman, Mike mentions the Radisson, Carl brags to the disinterested escort about the lounge suite) - so I guess Mike fits pretty well in line with that.

There's also a great take on it here:

Keith: Joel and Ethan Coen have talked about letting the story take them where they will when writing screenplays, but Fargo is a pretty tightly constructed film. (And, really, even the Coens’ more ramshackle films feel pretty thoughtfully put together.) Yet there’s one scene that doesn’t seem to serve the plot: Marge’s awkward reunion with her old high-school acquaintance Mike Yanagita (Steve Park). In fact, Googling the name “Mike Yanagita” leads to results like “What significance does Mike Yanagita have in Fargo?” and “Can anyone explain the significance of the Mike Yanagita scene in Fargo?” I haven’t visited those pages and I’m not sure what conclusions they draw, but the scene used to puzzle me too. Then it hit me that the scene doesn’t serve the mystery at all, but it does serve a parallel story, in which Marge faces an enormous life change with the arrival of her child, and questions whether she’s made the right decisions.

Marge is a great detective: fast, instinctive, and canny. She uses the codes of Minnesota nice to cut through Jerry’s defenses, and follows clues that others miss. So what’s she doing in small-town Brainerd, Minnesota? In some respects, settling. Fargo is above all a story of greed and discontent, a film filled with characters who always want more than they have, and will do what it takes to get it. Marge isn’t one of those people, but that doesn’t mean she’s immune to the same instincts. Note this: She never tells her husband she’s meeting Mike. Note, too: She makes herself up for their meeting, checking her hair as she walks in the door, and looking nervous in a way she never does when interviewing suspects or chasing down bad guys. I’m not suggesting she enters the restaurant prepared to embark on a torrid affair with Mike, but she at least wants to keep the meeting to herself, maybe just to contemplate paths not taken while reconnecting with someone who left Brainerd for the (relatively) big city.

To me, the cracks in Marge’s saintliness make Fargo a richer movie. She’s been touched by the urge to want what she doesn’t have, which makes her “…and it’s a beautiful day” speech more than a lecture she delivers to a bad guy: It’s something she’s telling herself. Ditto the final moments when she tells her husband, almost as if remembering it, “We’re doin’ pretty good” as they consider what lies ahead in just two months. Fargo is a crime story, but there’s another, more personal story playing out in the background.
 
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Not really what was shown, just the callous nature of it - Buscemi's character having a bad day so he shoots the Father without so much as a warning. The rather trivial disagreement about the money for the car leading him getting killed with an axe... Stormare's character killing the wife because she was "making noise"...

You mean the nonchalant approach at how easy it is to take someone's life?
 
5/5

I was going to go 4.5 but then I was thinking when would I give a movie full marks, if not this one?

It's fantastic...from the moment the camera slowly spirals into the conversation that Macy, Buscemi and Stormare are having at the roadhouse, I was hooked. You know a conspiracy is afoot without a word being said, just by how the camera gradually closes in.

Performances are uniformly great...Stormare hams it up a bit but his scenes with Buscemi are a riot because of it. McDormand getting a best actress Oscar felt a bit much...her performance is fine but the role doesn't have much to it (also it's debatable how much of a leading role Marge is versus being part of ensemble). Marge Gunderson is very centred and displays zero internal conflict throughout the movie...I did enjoy the "he's fleeing the interview" scene alot but mostly her time on-screen is nice (like her character), not exceptional.

The movie seems leisurely and ambles along but it's so well-edited that the run time is only 98 minutes that just fly by.
 
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