BBC Test Match commentators in frightening confrontation with South African policeman

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BBC Test Match commentators Jonathan Agnew and Michael Vaughan in frightening confrontation with South African policeman

Four BBC Test Match commentators were involved in a frightening confrontation with a South African policeman who, they claim, took their cash.

Car driver Jonathan Agnew claims he was pulled over and asked to produce his licence - which he did not have - before being threatened with being cuffed and taken to the local station.

Agnew, 55, revealed in a series of tweets that fellow commentators Michael Vaughan, Henry Blofeld and Simon Mann had to dig deep in their pockets to pay off the policeman.

He tweeted: “He made us empty our pockets and took the cash. Please do not suggest I bribed him.”

He added: “Very nice of the kind officer to let me go. After I had emptied my pockets of cash and given it to him. #corruption”
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Full article here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/bbc-test-match-commentators-jonathan-7234297

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Confrontation: Agnew claims the officer "trousered cash" as he asked who is winning the Test Match
 
Good, the more the rest of the world sees it, the less those in power and the ignorant idiots can pretend all is good.
 
i've seen that movie

was pulled over by a cop ( 2 of them), they then wanted to see my drivers license.
while taking out my wallet with the license in it, the one cop gives my pockets a quick tap to infer i am being searched.
he then takes my wallet and does a thorough examination of cards and cash - but not looking in it to see if "what he was searching me for" may be in the wallet.
he then counts the cash, puts it back in the wallet and says to me "i'm sure we can sort out this problem between us".
in the interim, the other cop is browsing around the inside of the car.

so i offer to pay "an admission of guilt fine" if he can process any papers at the police station on my behalf because "i am in a rush to get somewhere" (i thought best to choose my words very carefully there).
he agrees
i count the money in my wallet - i think there was R600 in it. out of sheer principal i'm not prepared to hand everything over and tell him i need R200 (for something or other) and can pay R400 now, or go to the police station in the morning and pay the full amount (which was never discussed). he takes the R400 & calls his partner to leave.
we go our separate ways.

i get home to discover the partner had stolen a phone & sunglasses out of the car during his "search"
 
I have been pulled over quiet a number of times and always dealt with very courteous officers. Must be lucky.
 
Mephisto_Helix said:
Good, the more the rest of the world sees it, the less those in power and the ignorant idiots can pretend all is good.
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They might be able to make a wave or two but, for the vast majority of victims (white, black and in-between) there is no alternative but to suck it up and pay because the alternative is a spell in the cells with all the associated horrors.
 
grantza said:
i've seen that movie

was pulled over by a cop ( 2 of them), they then wanted to see my drivers license.
while taking out my wallet with the license in it, the one cop gives my pockets a quick tap to infer i am being searched.
he then takes my wallet and does a thorough examination of cards and cash - but not looking in it to see if "what he was searching me for" may be in the wallet.
he then counts the cash, puts it back in the wallet and says to me "i'm sure we can sort out this problem between us".
in the interim, the other cop is browsing around the inside of the car.

so i offer to pay "an admission of guilt fine" if he can process any papers at the police station on my behalf because "i am in a rush to get somewhere" (i thought best to choose my words very carefully there).
he agrees
i count the money in my wallet - i think there was R600 in it. out of sheer principal i'm not prepared to hand everything over and tell him i need R200 (for something or other) and can pay R400 now, or go to the police station in the morning and pay the full amount (which was never discussed). he takes the R400 & calls his partner to leave.
we go our separate ways.

i get home to discover the partner had stolen a phone & sunglasses out of the car during his "search"
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Serves you right bribing police.
 
satanboy said:
I have been pulled over quiet a number of times and always dealt with very courteous officers. Must be lucky.
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Same here.

Bribery is bribery. Just tell the officer to write a ticket if asked for a bribe. I'll rather cooperate than fund their corruption.
 
Viva said:
Same here.

Bribery is bribery. Just tell the officer to write a ticket if asked for a bribe. I'll rather cooperate than fund their corruption.
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Same.

All the police officers that have pulled me over have been polite and professional.
 
satanboy said:
I have been pulled over quiet a number of times and always dealt with very courteous officers. Must be lucky.
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+1

Never ever had a problem with either Metro or SAP during a search or questioning. They usually friendly but I've had a couple of real hard nuts who have clearly had a bad day.

Best advice I can give:

No matter what, just be polite, answer his questions with yes sir/no sir and when that is not happening, keep your mouth shut. Don't try and be a wise guy.
 
Wasabee! said:
Serves you right bribing police.
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you realise of course there is a tiny little difference between bribery & extortion, don't you ?

but here, read slowly (and aloud preferably) and point to each word as you vocalise it:
he then counts the cash, puts it back in the wallet and says to me "i'm sure we can sort out this problem between us".
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If they ask for money say you need a receipt to claim it back from work (play dumb), they're likely to pull their face and fiddle with their book and eventually let you go. Worked for me 20 years ago in Joburg CBD, the only time I've been in such a situation. Btw it was a pair of cops working the scam (only right turn in the right lane even though it continues), one white and one black. The white guy was my scammer.
 
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satanboy said:
I have been pulled over quiet a number of times and always dealt with very courteous officers. Must be lucky.
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The typical driving and vehicle license check. Had a fair amount of those and always professional. In the Cape though.
 
grantza said:
you realise of course there is a tiny little difference between bribery & extortion, don't you ?

but here, read slowly (and aloud preferably) and point to each word as you vocalise it:
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he then counts the cash, puts it back in the wallet and says to me "i'm sure we can sort out this problem between us".
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To which you reply: No. You can write me a ticket. Give back my wallet.
 
Viva said:
To which you reply: No. You can write me a ticket. Give back my wallet.
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I think it's easy to give a solution when you personally weren't in the situation, there are a number of ways that could have of went nasty.
 
DA-LION-619 said:
I think it's easy to give a solution when you personally weren't in the situation, there are a number of ways that could have of went nasty.
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No. The officer writes out the fine and he pays it. If anything else happens officer gets reported and such.


My dealings with saps have always been very pleasant. Metro mostly as well, just one bad apple who threatened to arrest me until such time as I started dialing my lawyer and he backed off very quickly.
 
satanboy said:
I have been pulled over quiet a number of times and always dealt with very courteous officers. Must be lucky.
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Yup, agree. That is the majority in my experience, though I have been stopped a number of times where I have done something wrong and the officer is wanting something. I just say write the fine and hurry up about it please. :)

Never got a fine ever in those cases ;)
 
A BBC spokeswoman said: “We can confirm that Jonathan Agnew was stopped by the police. He was not carrying his driving licence and paid a fine.

We have nothing more to add.”
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So one must pay the fine on the spot with cash, got it.
 
I'll be happy to pay a fine when every driver on the road is treated the same. Until such time is hard to believe cops are interested in road safety and not in lining their pockets. Not all cops but some.

This includes those speeding, driving in yellow lines, stopping within 30 metres of an intersection, driving an unroadworthy vehicle, driving through a red traffic light, overloading - just the things we see every day for which drivers don't seem to be held responsible.

We're all equal remember.
 
Viva said:
To which you reply: No. You can write me a ticket. Give back my wallet.
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yea sure - in a utopian society
the local police station was well known for being corrupt

but here is something for you
so - lets say the crooked cops dont like your suggestion: "No. You can write me a ticket. Give back my wallet" and they decide to "teach you a lesson in respect by arresting you for anything they please.
one can be arrested for "suspicion" to have committed any crime whatsoever, and be held in custody for 48 hrs before being brought before a court.

say you get arrested wednesday evening - you go to court on monday morning - however, they will usually just release you on the monday morning - free to go.
 
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