Market welcomes white flag in DVD format war

It will damage the maker's reputation if they continue selling HD-DVD hardware now ..,because HD_DVD probably will become a swear word.........What do you think ?
 
I'm thinking no more video rentals for me (and I'm sure a LOT of other people) when blu-ray becomes the only avalable format. Unless the price for blu-ray players shed about 80 to 90% of it's current price. If the blu-ray player / DVD player price compare the same in the rest of the world, then I'm sure we'll see a huge increase in online "piracy" and "illegal" sharing of movies. That is asuming that DVD will became obsolete together with HD-DVD.
 
All blue ray players play standard definition dvd perfectly well.
 
Wynsam said:
All blue ray players play standard definition dvd perfectly well.
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Ah thanks, did not know that. So here's hoping the powers that be keep on churning out DVD's for the newer movies as well, and not only blu-ray discs.
 
It takes ages for new technologies to effectively kill of the technology its replacing. related to this would be whether movies are still released on VHS format?
 
HD-DVD IMHO was the best as:

1. It was cheap
2. It had no region encoding
3. It had the name DVD in it (call it nostalogia)
 
boramk said:
HD-DVD IMHO was the best as:

1. It was cheap
2. It had no region encoding
3. It had the name DVD in it (call it nostalogia)
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Couldn't agree any more... Just something about having DVD in it that made me support them and also,HD-DVD described it best, High Def Dvd's...lol "Blu-Ray" sounded too futuristic for me...:rolleyes:
 
Aah you'll get oer the name. :p

Blue ray is better, it holds more data and that will hopefully become more useful than just uncompressed audio tracks soon.
 
Gooku said:
It will damage the maker's reputation if they continue selling HD-DVD hardware now ..,because HD_DVD probably will become a swear word.........What do you think ?
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I predict that blu-ray will be a very short-lived format... much shorter than VHS and shorter than DVD itself.

Sony is going to be too greedy to allow the format to thrive. The high prices will throttle wholesale take-up of the format. There are just too many other competitors (direct downloads, the old DVD format, etc.)

The current price of a home entertainment system that does justice to the format is way beyond the reach of the majority of the world's consumers, HD-DVD might have pulled it off, but Blu-Ray will remain out of range (PS3's even will not help their absorption much.. .because however much you want to slice it ... PS3 is a gaming machine, not a home theater system).

and just by the time Blu-Ray reaches the tipping edge a newer snazzier upstart format will come along and pull the rug out from under them... just like the Wii has done to the gaming format wars!

you mark my words!
 
Garyvdh said:
I predict that blu-ray will be a very short-lived format... much shorter than VHS and shorter than DVD itself.

Sony is going to be too greedy to allow the format to thrive. The high prices will throttle wholesale take-up of the format. There are just too many other competitors (direct downloads, the old DVD format, etc.)

The current price of a home entertainment system that does justice to the format is way beyond the reach of the majority of the world's consumers, HD-DVD might have pulled it off, but Blu-Ray will remain out of range (PS3's even will not help their absorption much.. .because however much you want to slice it ... PS3 is a gaming machine, not a home theater system).

and just by the time Blu-Ray reaches the tipping edge a newer snazzier upstart format will come along and pull the rug out from under them... just like the Wii has done to the gaming format wars!

you mark my words!
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With the major players all subscribed to Blu-ray format, no way. Give credit where its due. Sony is huge and shrewd when you want to compete against them. Maybe what killed the HD-DVD idea was the copyright protection. I would have been to easy to crack. I am sure blu ray will be too but hackers preferred HD-dvd for that reason.
 
Garyvdh said:
I predict that blu-ray will be a very short-lived format... much shorter than VHS and shorter than DVD itself.
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So do I - I think online content delivery is going to make blu-ray obsolete in most major markets sooner rather than later.
 
Garyvdh said:
I predict that blu-ray will be a very short-lived format... much shorter than VHS and shorter than DVD itself.

Sony is going to be too greedy to allow the format to thrive. The high prices will throttle wholesale take-up of the format. There are just too many other competitors (direct downloads, the old DVD format, etc.)

The current price of a home entertainment system that does justice to the format is way beyond the reach of the majority of the world's consumers, HD-DVD might have pulled it off, but Blu-Ray will remain out of range (PS3's even will not help their absorption much.. .because however much you want to slice it ... PS3 is a gaming machine, not a home theater system).

and just by the time Blu-Ray reaches the tipping edge a newer snazzier upstart format will come along and pull the rug out from under them... just like the Wii has done to the gaming format wars!

you mark my words!
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In the USA, you can not buy a tube TV anymore. There are only Plasma, LCD and some DLP TV's available. PS3 consoles are selling, not like hotcakes, but they are selling, and now that the consumer knows what to buy, or now the Best Buy Geek Squad dude can suggest only Blu-Ray, i think it will definitely take up quickly from here on out. Blu-Ray can not be compared to downloads nor older DVD's. It is really exceptional quality and the audio is stunning.

All of this is not that expensive either.

1 x 42" Plasma TV = ~ $800
1 x PS3 = $ 399

That is fairly cheap.
 
Garyvdh said:
... PS3 is a gaming machine, not a home theater system).
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I dont think they ever marketed it as a home theatre system did they? I use mine as the primary player connected to my home theatre system. I bought the PS3 as a (relatively) cheap, true HD player. the gaming aspect is a major bonus though.
 
bwana said:
So do I - I think online content delivery is going to make blu-ray obsolete in most major markets sooner rather than later.
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doubtful, if any country has proven that online delivery cannot work it is us no?

plus even assuming you live in some bandwidth friendly utopia, do you really want to stream 50gb plus every time you want to watch a movie? If not, where would you save your movie collection? Terrabytes also run out eventually, not to mention losing your entire collection due to one disk failure becomes a possibility ... i believe optical formats will be here for a good while still, maybe the hologram disc even makes it into production someday.
 
Farquaon said:
All of this is not that expensive either.

1 x 42" Plasma TV = ~ $800
1 x PS3 = $ 399

That is fairly cheap.
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:eek: How many South Africans are going to fork out over R7000 on a new TV and DVD player?

I guarantee you... the Blu-Ray format will not last five years.

The days of long term format duration are over. There is too much money at stake and too much new technology available.
 
Garyvdh said:
... PS3 is a gaming machine, not a home theater system).you mark my words!
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Sony begs to differ because they market it as an multimedia machine.
Gaming is about 30% of this device. Looking at the PS2 still alive and performing well I would all but believe that the Blu ray will die. PS3 will ensure that, as well as the fact that Blu-ray players will become main stream for the PC now and as such will replace the DVD 5 Gig with a 50 Gig capable storage and backup device.
 
Garyvdh said:
:eek: How many South Africans are going to fork out over R7000 on a new TV and DVD player?

I guarantee you... the Blu-Ray format will not last five years.

The days of long term format duration are over. There is too much money at stake and too much new technology available.
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People buy TV's, the bigger the better not because they want or need a Blu-Ray player. The Blu-Ray player will just be another extension of the home Theatre system and looking at sales that market is booming.
 
Garyvdh said:
:eek: How many South Africans are going to fork out over R7000 on a new TV and DVD player?

I guarantee you... the Blu-Ray format will not last five years.

The days of long term format duration are over. There is too much money at stake and too much new technology available.
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So how much more empowered will the average South African be to pay the premium for this newer technology. Digital downloads require broadband and a decent usage limit, and we are all to familiar as to who is screwing us there.
The huge investment by most movie studios and manufacturers means the format will be around for while.
 
It's confirmed

TOKYO, Feb 19 (Reuters) - Japan's Toshiba Corp <6502.T> said
on Tuesday it would stop promoting its HD DVD format for the
next-generation DVD after losing the support of key studios and
retailers to the Blu-ray technology backed by Sony Corp <6758.T>.
The decision ends a war between rival consortiums led by
Toshiba and Sony vying to set the standard for high-definition
movies on DVDs.
Toshiba said it would begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD
players and recorders and aim to end the business by the end of
next month.
The Blu-ray win means consumers no longer have to choose
between rival incompatible formats and run the risk of being
stuck with a 21st century equivalent of Betamax -- Sony's
videotape technology that lost out to VHS in the 1980s.
Having one format should also help accelerate the shift to
the new technology in the $24 billion home DVD market as shoppers
faced with rival machines that played only one type of disc or
the other, have previously held back.
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