This has no real reason I'm just kind off inquesitive. *spelling error* Doe neotel allow all the ports. Cause I know MTN,Vodacom and the others doesn't allow incomming connections. The ports are blocked. If any 1 knows. It will be intressting. 
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It is not a case of the ports being blocked with neotel it is just that there is no way to route the ports in order to get incomming connections as there is no router with neotel, the device they currently provide is a modem and has no routing funcionality and as such it appears that all the ports are stealthed/cloked, but in actual fact they are open. In other words even though the ports are open, most P2P applications are going to have problems with incoming connections as there is no way to route the traffic to specific ports with the neotel modem. You will still be able to get good speeds on a torrent that has far more seeders than leechers as connections to seeders will be faster, but will be slow as heck to leechers.
sorry about the double post,
To answer your question, neotel does not block any ports, but it will look like they are blocked as you will be using a modem and not a router. The same problem occurs on a normal Dial-up connection.
To answer your question, neotel does not block any ports, but it will look like they are blocked as you will be using a modem and not a router. The same problem occurs on a normal Dial-up connection.
blocked??
That doesn't make any sense.
If you don't have a public IP address then nobody on the internet can connect directly to you. If you do have a public IP, then something else is blocking your ports, either their dialup program which acts as a firewall, or your own personal/OS firewall is enabled.
Supply some information like a hostname, or IP Address. For those users that uses windows as their Operating System, please do the following:
You will have to create a successful connection to Neotel via the telephone handset. Then go on a Windows machine. Start -> Run -> cmd. Press <ENTER>
Type in the console: ipconfig. Look for a connection that indicates that it is a dial-up connection.
Paste the IP address here, so that we can determine if it is either a public or private internet address. If you feel you will get bombarded with worms/viruses from everyone reading this forum and don't want to share with everyone, please private message me instead.
That doesn't make any sense.
If you don't have a public IP address then nobody on the internet can connect directly to you. If you do have a public IP, then something else is blocking your ports, either their dialup program which acts as a firewall, or your own personal/OS firewall is enabled.
Supply some information like a hostname, or IP Address. For those users that uses windows as their Operating System, please do the following:
You will have to create a successful connection to Neotel via the telephone handset. Then go on a Windows machine. Start -> Run -> cmd. Press <ENTER>
Type in the console: ipconfig. Look for a connection that indicates that it is a dial-up connection.
Paste the IP address here, so that we can determine if it is either a public or private internet address. If you feel you will get bombarded with worms/viruses from everyone reading this forum and don't want to share with everyone, please private message me instead.
hey guys, sorry about the delay, but i am trying to figure it out myself without handing over my IP. I used a program called scanport to scan the IP address and it comes up with all the scanned ports as stealthed which means you are right and I am wrong, so much for relying on neotel for the truth. The prime uncapped service they are offering is definately "shaped". I used both the neotel internet and my ADSL to scan the ports with the same result so it is definately blocked. I also ensured that all firewalls were shut down completely.
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Before you make accusations - just a point of accuracy: Shaping is not the same thing as blocking ports. Shaping is done through deep packet inspection and filtering specific protocols, not by simply blocking ports. To give Neotel the benefit of the doubt, we should get them to respond. On some other networks, incoming ports are blocked by default, and can be opened on request.
I do realise the difference between shaped and simply blocking ports and that is why I said "shaped."
Would love to give them the benefit of the doubt, but i have already spoken to them about this issue numerous times and they tell me that nothing is blocked so everything should be fine. Clearly the ports are blocked though so ...
Would love to give them the benefit of the doubt, but i have already spoken to them about this issue numerous times and they tell me that nothing is blocked so everything should be fine. Clearly the ports are blocked though so ...
You could only give us 2 parts of the ip, without being compromised. Supply us with the first 2 sections of your IP. E.g. 196.33.x.x should be sufficient. We can work out from that if it is a public or private IP.
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My experience with dial up connections is as follows:
I have quite a nifty network setup whereby I can dial up an ADSL account or use our server as the gateway for internet. The ADSL Router is setup in bridge mode to allow me to dial. (Smoothwall used for access through the server).
When I dial my own connection, I can host services directly on my personal public IP. Although recently, I have been having problems with hosting certain games (others cannot see the game). While if I forward the game port through the smoothwall and server, it works fine. And it certainly isn't a personal firewall problem.
If you want to see if you can host certain things, try hosting a Ventrilo server and getting one of your mates to join it using your Neotel public IP. It should work.
I have quite a nifty network setup whereby I can dial up an ADSL account or use our server as the gateway for internet. The ADSL Router is setup in bridge mode to allow me to dial. (Smoothwall used for access through the server).
When I dial my own connection, I can host services directly on my personal public IP. Although recently, I have been having problems with hosting certain games (others cannot see the game). While if I forward the game port through the smoothwall and server, it works fine. And it certainly isn't a personal firewall problem.
If you want to see if you can host certain things, try hosting a Ventrilo server and getting one of your mates to join it using your Neotel public IP. It should work.
So your IP appears to be a valid public IP that Neotel owns (duh 
). Something else must be blocking your incoming connections. At least we know now what ranges to expect.
Assuming they don't use PPPoE to create a connection, it wouldn't work to set it to bridge mode. Somebody with CDMA2000 experience should comment on how the connection is made, so that we can determine why the ports appears to be blocked. Usually on a linux machine you would either have a serial connection to the device or use PPPoE to a device that is set in bridged mode. I suspect that in this case it creates a serial connection to the PC and then the dialer application(Neotel) talks to the modem and initiates the dialup sequence. The same could be done on linux if we know how to setup the USB to serial.
Alternative would be the device is making the connection and then acts as a router(that also does network address translation, SNAT)/firewall to the clients that connect to the internet
Now on 3G networks like Vodacom and MTN you would usually expect to receive a private IP, which their gateway/router then translates to a public IP, which is why you normally don't have anybody connecting back to you.
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). Something else must be blocking your incoming connections. At least we know now what ranges to expect.Assuming they don't use PPPoE to create a connection, it wouldn't work to set it to bridge mode. Somebody with CDMA2000 experience should comment on how the connection is made, so that we can determine why the ports appears to be blocked. Usually on a linux machine you would either have a serial connection to the device or use PPPoE to a device that is set in bridged mode. I suspect that in this case it creates a serial connection to the PC and then the dialer application(Neotel) talks to the modem and initiates the dialup sequence. The same could be done on linux if we know how to setup the USB to serial.
Alternative would be the device is making the connection and then acts as a router(that also does network address translation, SNAT)/firewall to the clients that connect to the internet
Now on 3G networks like Vodacom and MTN you would usually expect to receive a private IP, which their gateway/router then translates to a public IP, which is why you normally don't have anybody connecting back to you.
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