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HD ready or full HD
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MogenNaidoo
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HD Ready for displays lower than 50" (i.e. 47" and under) - these support resolutions up to 1366x786 (720p). Any resolutions above this for these sizes you won't notice the difference.
Full HD for displays over 50" - these will support 1080p (1920x1080) and larger displays require higher resolutions.
Other factors also come into account the viewing distance away from the screen. There is no point is getting a 50" if you are sitting 1.5m from the screen.
Also some HD Ready displays lower than 50" accept 1080p inputs but can only display this at 720p resulting in loss of data.
Full HD for displays over 50" - these will support 1080p (1920x1080) and larger displays require higher resolutions.
Other factors also come into account the viewing distance away from the screen. There is no point is getting a 50" if you are sitting 1.5m from the screen.
Also some HD Ready displays lower than 50" accept 1080p inputs but can only display this at 720p resulting in loss of data.
LazyLion
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Then why not just drop all the "HD" bull and call a thing what it is... 720 or 1080?
Another higher resolution TV or display is going to come along in a year or two.. then what will we call it? Fuller HD? HD+?
Stupid retailers.
They need to drop their prices as well so poor people like me can buy a 1080 rated display!
Another higher resolution TV or display is going to come along in a year or two.. then what will we call it? Fuller HD? HD+?
Stupid retailers.
They need to drop their prices as well so poor people like me can buy a 1080 rated display!
MogenNaidoo
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Its all a marketing ploy. If you buy an LCD 47" or under that says 1080p then you are being robbed in my opinion. Its just so manufacturers can make more money off the less educated in this topic.
Unless you connecting the LCD to an excellent gfx card on your PC (this is probably the only time you can see the difference is through a PC) you are wasting your money.
Unless you connecting the LCD to an excellent gfx card on your PC (this is probably the only time you can see the difference is through a PC) you are wasting your money.
I dislike this HD ready and full HD nomenclature cr@p. Simply state 720P or 1080P (full HD). I think this HD ready thing came out 2-3 years back and for the whole duration of HD brodcasts prior - either via cable, satellite or free to air TV or via D-VHS tape people called HD, simply HD and it referred to 720p or 1080i even p.
Anyway 1920by1080 or 1280by720 are the two resolutions, they are both widescreen ie 16:9 aspect and their signal can be obtained from computer sources (HD video files encoded in full HD or 720p), HD-DVD players, D-VHS players, DSTV (720p), BluRay, consoles and some PC games. In addition there is user generated content from cameras both still and now video.
Screen size? As a rule of the thumb sit within 3 vertical screen heights to get the full HD effect, sitting further away diminishes the resolution and pretty soon the picture looks like standard definition.
LCD is great but Plasma offers best contrast, widest viewing angles and now plasma sets are appearing which offer full HD picture from 50 inches up, some manufacturers are producing 42 inch full HD plasmas too.
As for sitting too close, sitting closer achieves an IMAX like effect and you can either buy a 24 inch LCD and sit close and get that cinema feel or buy a big 50 inch plus monster and sit reasonably closely.
Alternatives to HD are personal HD viewing glasses - there are now some in 720P and projectors - the full HD variety being very expensive, some cheaper 720p models are available, I saw one at Makro 6 months back for R10K or so,
at 1280by720 native resolution.
FYI, the sets in shop showrooms are running in 'torch mode'. Their settings are usually maxed out and as said a computer generated HD source optimised for colour vibriance is employed to shock and awe the customer into buying an overpriced set.
Anyway 1920by1080 or 1280by720 are the two resolutions, they are both widescreen ie 16:9 aspect and their signal can be obtained from computer sources (HD video files encoded in full HD or 720p), HD-DVD players, D-VHS players, DSTV (720p), BluRay, consoles and some PC games. In addition there is user generated content from cameras both still and now video.
Screen size? As a rule of the thumb sit within 3 vertical screen heights to get the full HD effect, sitting further away diminishes the resolution and pretty soon the picture looks like standard definition.
LCD is great but Plasma offers best contrast, widest viewing angles and now plasma sets are appearing which offer full HD picture from 50 inches up, some manufacturers are producing 42 inch full HD plasmas too.
As for sitting too close, sitting closer achieves an IMAX like effect and you can either buy a 24 inch LCD and sit close and get that cinema feel or buy a big 50 inch plus monster and sit reasonably closely.
Alternatives to HD are personal HD viewing glasses - there are now some in 720P and projectors - the full HD variety being very expensive, some cheaper 720p models are available, I saw one at Makro 6 months back for R10K or so,
at 1280by720 native resolution.
FYI, the sets in shop showrooms are running in 'torch mode'. Their settings are usually maxed out and as said a computer generated HD source optimised for colour vibriance is employed to shock and awe the customer into buying an overpriced set.
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I watched a HD video demo connected to a 40" Full HD Bravia Sony and a 37’’ HD ready (???) brand and the difference in display and quality were clearly apparent as well as movement blur and clarity.
Does that mean running my PC monitor at 1920by1080 or 1280by720 will show no difference with HD signal?
If you can afford it 24" will be better IMHO. then you have all options. Make sure it can handle HDMI and DVI inputs
BenQ FP241W Black 24" 6ms(GTG) DVI Widescreen HDMI LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014124
http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=13101
http://www.jump.co.za/product/acer-p243w-24-wide-lcd-9869057.htm
Samsung
http://www.jump.co.za/product/samsung-syncmaster-24-lcd-monitor-t240-13864138.htm
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MR.C
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The MAKRO stores in Pretoria only are offering a Samsung 32'' HD ready (720) LCD TV (LA32A330) for R5799.
Is this a bargain, more than a bargain or what?
And HD PVR for R2199, bargain?
People saying that HD TV prices gonna fall but the rand is going crazy at the moment, wont that push ALL prices up?
The MAKRO stores in Pretoria only are offering a Samsung 32'' HD ready (720) LCD TV (LA32A330) for R5799.
Is this a bargain, more than a bargain or what?
And HD PVR for R2199, bargain?
People saying that HD TV prices gonna fall but the rand is going crazy at the moment, wont that push ALL prices up?
km2
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This article was touting a lot of the benefits of having 1080p vs 720p, and it sounded like there were no downsides (aside from cost) of getting 1080p instead.
Surely if you're watching a 720p DSTV HD show on a 1080p screen it would need to get upsampled to 1080p, losing the whole 1:1 source pixel mapping and making it look a bit blurred. If you're only going to be watching DSTV HD (and not bothering with Bluray/PS3, think XBOX360 is predominantly 720p as well), wouldn't it be better to get a screen that runs at the native resolution?
Surely if you're watching a 720p DSTV HD show on a 1080p screen it would need to get upsampled to 1080p, losing the whole 1:1 source pixel mapping and making it look a bit blurred. If you're only going to be watching DSTV HD (and not bothering with Bluray/PS3, think XBOX360 is predominantly 720p as well), wouldn't it be better to get a screen that runs at the native resolution?
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22" are higher than 720P, they are 1650x1080. Besides that it is near to impossible tell the differance between 720P & 1080P playing games on a panel smaller than 42".
PC Monitors suck for consoles though, its the k@kest thing sitting so close playing consoles plus there is the problem with sound. I played on my HP 22" HDMI for a while but after a while decided to get a Bravia, all I can say is WOW, completely differant experience.
But anyways, if you can afford R5k for a 24" LCD, why not just go for a 32" LCD TV?
Kkkurupt
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I agree with u. How wil they squeeze those 1080p horizontal lines on a 40 inch? If they do manage to squeeze them, then there will be no resolution difference. Its similar to WEBSTER, the years are passing but you dont see the difference.
Rouxenator
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Squeezing lines is a non factor. You can squeeze 1024 lines (1280x1024) on some 14" monitors and it looks better than any resolution below.I think the statement should be if you budget can only go up to 40" then... well, thats is ?
If you buy a new TV today and it is not a 1080 line one then your are short sighted and will probably have to buy a new one sooner that you would if you got 1080.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
The Crux of the matter; I will rather pay more for the 1080p, takes out all the guess work and alleviate that possible nagging irritating feeling or hindrance of "I should have, should I have?"
Look at the writing detail on the books
What when they macro zoom is a high detail picture?
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I actually saw a test in an AV magazine with a 720 and 1080 42" screen.
There were 3 guys and they never knew which TV was which. IIRC correctly 2 outta 3 chose the HD after carefully examining the picture quality. Shows how close they actually are on a 42"!
Same magazine did the same test with Blu Ray vs upscaled DVD. Again, results were much closer than people would have you believe - though in this test, all 3 selected the BD correctly. The conclusion was again, was that it was a mild improvement if you have 20/20 vision and are looking for a difference.
Not quite the day/night difference some saleman and forumites will tell you.
There were 3 guys and they never knew which TV was which. IIRC correctly 2 outta 3 chose the HD after carefully examining the picture quality. Shows how close they actually are on a 42"!
Same magazine did the same test with Blu Ray vs upscaled DVD. Again, results were much closer than people would have you believe - though in this test, all 3 selected the BD correctly. The conclusion was again, was that it was a mild improvement if you have 20/20 vision and are looking for a difference.
Not quite the day/night difference some saleman and forumites will tell you.