20 Mbps Uncapped for R 500 'just not feasible'

wow...yet again false hope in south africa, i dont know who is worse, the government with all their lies, or global verge trying to think they can fool us south africans with crap like this. You do know most of us have degrees...we dont live in the bushes you know (speaking to global verge lol).
 
We knew this even before the conference... and during the conference they didn't give us ANY technical information.... just empty hopes....
 
i rate we get carte blanch involved...i mean think about it logically..they love catching the bad guys, and this sounds way to good to be true, so what better idea than to get them to investigate.....any one got any good contacts within carte blanch?
 
Don't believe everything you see on CB ... they don't always get the facts right, and I have heard in one specific case, they engaged in some very "creative editing."
 
lol lol lol how pathetic. Clearly the Global Verge peanut has no idea what he's doing.
 
I have a HIGHLY THEORETICAL theory as to what the technology that achieves what they are selling does.
Please bear with me as I have some understanding of wireless technology, but, not enough to actually be useful.

From what little I know, for this to be even slightly true, they would be using a system that looks like this:

1 - A tower with hyper sensitive receiving only RF pads on an unallocated frequency.
2 - The client has a boosted omni on the above frequency, this is used for transmitting only.
3 - The client will also have a satellite dish mounted in the ceiling or externally for receiving directly from the satellite.
4 - A BIG contract with a satellite downstream bandwidth provider.
5 - Throw in a central South African ADSL "hub" site to save on costs.

The client's omni can transmit 40km through a single wall easily enough. The receiving tower pads only have to worry about receiving signals, so they can be hyper sensitive. The tower then speaks to the client via a satellite in orbit to the dish in the client's ceiling/roof/wall.

Because the pc -> tower communication is one-way, it's very much just like a radar with sending only and receiving only equipment. There is no need to "make room" for transmitting acknowledgements and sending data and all the related problems that are associated with that mess. That is how they can achieve 40km range through a wall.

So, to ask for a website's opening page, it's like this:
1. One-way client to tower one-way.
2. Tower to wired internet via ADSL on local-only.
3. Local-only ADSL to central South African ADSL site (30ms latency).
4. Central South African ADSL site to International ADSL.
5. International ADSL to central satellite control station, probably in the USA (180ms latency)
6. Central satellite control station creates data stream for requested content.
7. Data stream for requested content beamed to satellite.
8. Satellite bounces signal down to client's satellite dish on the ceiling/roof/wall.
9. Client sends acknowledgement to tower.

And, all this can be done in less than the usual 500ms's response time that we are used to on our international bandwidth.

The 180ms lag mentioned above is a good ping on my current ADSL line to New York divided in two (Cos, it's a halfway trip, even thought the tower is still waiting for a response from New York, New York can already be sending the data to the satellite before the tower gets the acknowledgement from New York).

Note again, this is pure speculation.

Did they mention how much equipment the client would have to install?
 
Why are we still on this crap?!?!? STOP wasting our time please. :mad::mad:
 
wow! Surprise, surprise! Who woulda thunk it? Oh, wait, everyone. We all called BS as soon as we heard it. Next!.....
 
davemc said:
I have a HIGHLY THEORETICAL theory as to what the technology that achieves what they are selling does.
Please bear with me as I have some understanding of wireless technology, but, not enough to actually be useful.

From what little I know, for this to be even slightly true, they would be using a system that looks like this:

1 - A tower with hyper sensitive receiving only RF pads on an unallocated frequency.
2 - The client has a boosted omni on the above frequency, this is used for transmitting only.
3 - The client will also have a satellite dish mounted in the ceiling or externally for receiving directly from the satellite.
4 - A BIG contract with a satellite downstream bandwidth provider.
5 - Throw in a central South African ADSL "hub" site to save on costs.

The client's omni can transmit 40km through a single wall easily enough. The receiving tower pads only have to worry about receiving signals, so they can be hyper sensitive. The tower then speaks to the client via a satellite in orbit to the dish in the client's ceiling/roof/wall.

Because the pc -> tower communication is one-way, it's very much just like a radar with sending only and receiving only equipment. There is no need to "make room" for transmitting acknowledgements and sending data and all the related problems that are associated with that mess. That is how they can achieve 40km range through a wall.

So, to ask for a website's opening page, it's like this:
1. One-way client to tower one-way.
2. Tower to wired internet via ADSL on local-only.
3. Local-only ADSL to central South African ADSL site (30ms latency).
4. Central South African ADSL site to International ADSL.
5. International ADSL to central satellite control station, probably in the USA (180ms latency)
6. Central satellite control station creates data stream for requested content.
7. Data stream for requested content beamed to satellite.
8. Satellite bounces signal down to client's satellite dish on the ceiling/roof/wall.
9. Client sends acknowledgement to tower.

And, all this can be done in less than the usual 500ms's response time that we are used to on our international bandwidth.

The 180ms lag mentioned above is a good ping on my current ADSL line to New York divided in two (Cos, it's a halfway trip, even thought the tower is still waiting for a response from New York, New York can already be sending the data to the satellite before the tower gets the acknowledgement from New York).

Note again, this is pure speculation.

Did they mention how much equipment the client would have to install?
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sounds a lot like what MWeb used to do with dial-up for sending instead of adsl...
 
Hmmmm......it looks as if the only reason that this is not a ponzi scheme is that they actually sell a product. Bet you that most of the money will be made by a few people right at the beginning, and that this money will by far be from recruiting people into the scheme, rather than from the product itself.
 
MyBB, why are you reporting on this pyramid scheme again?
 
Mouse said:
MyBB, why are you reporting on this pyramid scheme again?
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How can an IT news site NOT report on this?

I mean, the community needs to be made aware of this scam. Would you rather we had another story about imminent offerings from Neotel? Or perhaps another article about how SEACOM is going to revolutionise the SA telecoms industry?

Wait I know! We should have another one of those articles about how South Africans pay too much for broadband! Those are much more informative than articles about a new scam in the telecoms industry.

:rolleyes:
 
Now this is a shocker. All the MyBB believed 100% that this is goining to happen. What a let down for everyone!:o
 
Obronie said:
Now this is a shocker. All the MyBB believed 100% that this is goining to happen. What a let down for everyone!:o
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Huh?!

Maybe you did, I def did not and the same to about 70% of the people that posted in the original thread
 
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