New linux distro Kongoni Nietzsche released

Yes, but how does the product activation work? :confused: and where do I put my license key in?
 
I don't get why we need more fragmentation in Linux distributions?

Is all that effort really needed to create a new name on the same thing?
Working unifiedly on a few major distributions will probably achieve more.

Is it really that different to all the distros listed here: http://distrowatch.com
?
 
def said:
I don't get why we need more fragmentation in Linux distributions?

Is all that effort really needed to create a new name on the same thing?
Working unifiedly on a few major distributions will probably achieve more.

Is it really that different to all the distros listed here: http://distrowatch.com
?
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Yes, it is.

But to answer your valid question on fragmentation, we think that the amount of distributions is a good thing, not a bad thing. I explained my point of view in detail in these two blog posts:
http://silentcoder.co.za/2008/12/why-we-need-more-not-less-gnulinux-distributions/
http://silentcoder.co.za/2008/12/the-concept-of-diversity-a-follow-up-to-jonathan-carters-reply/

You may not agree -but at least you know why we feel it's a worthwhile effort.
 
Finally more distros are moving over to ports-like package management. A very good choice indeed :)

Next, how about BSD-like rc.d system which Gentoo users can use thanks to OpenRC?
 
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Why has it been named after the philosopher?

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All our releases are named after great philosophers and thus far we have released: Aristotle and Sophocles.

from the website.
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But why only European philosophers? When will the Mbeki distro be released?
 
silentcoder said:
Yes, it is.

But to answer your valid question on fragmentation, we think that the amount of distributions is a good thing, not a bad thing. I explained my point of view in detail in these two blog posts:
http://silentcoder.co.za/2008/12/why-we-need-more-not-less-gnulinux-distributions/
http://silentcoder.co.za/2008/12/the-concept-of-diversity-a-follow-up-to-jonathan-carters-reply/

You may not agree -but at least you know why we feel it's a worthwhile effort.
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OK, I guess it's just fun to make your own distro to play around with etc then.

Windows has 90% of the market share, while the rest of the 10% are busy playing with 300 different distros listed on distrowatch :O
When you create a new distro, do you install each of the 300 distro's to see if it hasn't already been done in a certain way?

But I hope Kongoni touches a few people! And like you say, hopefully the ideas get into one of the major distributions eventually.

Good luck!
 
def said:
OK, I guess it's just fun to make your own distro to play around with etc then.

Windows has 90% of the market share, while the rest of the 10% are busy playing with 300 different distros listed on distrowatch :O
When you create a new distro, do you install each of the 300 distro's to see if it hasn't already been done in a certain way?

But I hope Kongoni touches a few people! And like you say, hopefully the ideas get into one of the major distributions eventually.

Good luck!
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I think you completely miss the point when it comes to FOSS.

Yay.. 90% of the DESKTOP market share. Hooray. When it comes to real computing with servers those poor confused distro`s you are so worried about. Basically completely own the server market. IE.. run the world of computing.

Must be something terribly wrong with MS server is disfragmented little distros are able to kick its ass back 10 years.

Linux has just entered the desktop competition. I imagine MS will have to give their desktop out for free to remain competitive. I guess you dont see that :P Ure confused at all the choice.
 
ubuntu, suse and gentoo are some of the major players....i see this distro as just another spin-off, thats going to have to play catch up. If you can show me something better than I have in ubuntu etc, then I'm sold
 
def said:
OK, I guess it's just fun to make your own distro to play around with etc then.
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Well it's more than that, but that is a part of it - it is fun, we're not doing this for money - all of us are working on it because it's fun. Another part is that there really is advantages to the design - the BSD-inspired structures are really more suitable for African conditions than other systems (source tarballs are almost always much smaller than binary packages - cpu time in cheaper than bandwith here) - and we really believe in free software.
To show that point: using linux-libre rather than plain old linux means quite a few devices that work on other distro's may not (yet) work with Kongoni because they depend on non-free drivers or firmware. Well, we would rather stick to our freedom only principle - in so doing putting pressure on those manufacturers to provide free drivers (like what happened with Atheros) than to get more users in the short-term at the expense of not being fully free.

But why only European philosophers? When will the Mbeki distro be released? .
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Actually - there is no "only European philosophers" rule - our selection is of great philosophers - at least in part because of the ideals of freedom of thought. We don't agree with everything those philosophers may have said (our first two choices directly contradict one another on many points) - but we believe in their right to say it, whatever it was. We are simply choosing them based in a semi-random order from the list of greats. Kant will get his chance somewhere along the line, so will Cicero - and yes we intend to include the great African philosophers on the list, so there will probably be a version named Luthuli in the future.
Mbeki however is not a philosopher, if he was, he would be a very bad one (mind you Govan Mbeki may just qualify...) so I doubt he will make it to the list.
Gigtech - I hope I answered your question as well now.

How about a BSD-like rc system ?
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Actually we already have one. The slackware rc system has been BSD like for years. It's not the same as FreeBSD's, it's more like the original BSD rc system but it is most definitely an example of that. For each runlevel, a single script determines the order in which other scripts are loaded, you can instantly enable or disable any of these scripts by simply changing their executable bit.

PS. I guess not everybody realized, I'm A.J. Venter - the lead developer of the project so I am in fact speaking for the project, not that I make up the answers on the spot - we thought all these things through as a group before we started, I'm just sharing our democratically decided consensus.
 
dudleygb said:
ubuntu, suse and gentoo are some of the major players....i see this distro as just another spin-off, thats going to have to play catch up. If you can show me something better than I have in ubuntu etc, then I'm sold
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Odd, since this distro is not based on any of the ones you list. It's based on Slackware (but then I would consider slackware one of the major players - it is the longest surviving distro, the only one that has never failed to be profitable and has remained in the distrowatch top 10 consistently while others came and went) - but there is a bigger point. Define better ? Better at what ?
It is not better at what Ubuntu does so well, it's not the perfect distro for a first time GNU/Linux user - and it's not trying to be. This is a distro aimed at power-users. People with a bit of technical experience - people who have been using Ubuntu for some time perhaps. People who want to learn more, who desire more control and power over the system than you can get with a dumbed down one.

It's still a desktop targeted system, but it's not aimed at the same section of the desktop market - I think it is much better than Ubuntu will ever be at what it does - but Ubuntu isn't trying to be good at the same things, and vice versa.
 
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