Megaserve/Netcontacts: Know the facts

Ratwiz

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Hi All,

I am writing about my dealings with Megaserve/Netcontacts over the past few months. I am highly dissatisfied with their customer service and their wireless internet service. Megaserve/Netcontacts are run by the same people since the phone number on the contacts page of www.netcontacts.biz is in fact the Megaserve tech support line (555-3168) and the number I subsequently phoned to enquire about the wireless internet service.

Before I had the service installed at my residence I was actually very impressed at this company. Firstly, they were the only WISP that could provide to my area (Somerset West) that I knew of at the time and they seemed to be very competent. I dealt with a person named Carey at first and he told me about the service. I asked him many questions (to make sure that they were a good company, should have rather found out from their customers) to which he always seemed to have the right answer.

I would like to highlight that he said the Wireless 128k service is uncapped, that P2P WORKS even though only from 7:00pm to 7:00am (P2P worked on 4 occasions in the first 2 months and for about 2 weeks at night in the last month I was with them) and that they would buy back my hardware if I cancelled my service to them. I was also told the service is 100% legal, which I’m not going to press because it’s a grey area. Carey seemed to know exactly what was going on and impressed me by being able to answer all my questions satisfactorily.

So, I ordered the service with a huge grin on my face thinking that I would be able to finally get rid of 56k, at last! The tech guys came to do a site survey and confirmed that my location could receive adequate signal and that I would be able to utilize their service. The installer came roughly a week later, but came at night, so he couldn’t install it then. He said he would the next day, but didn’t. He came some days later, and even after seeing our house he brought a bracket that was too short to mount to our wall properly and he decided to bend the aluminium mast on which the grid antennae is mounted instead. I probably shouldn’t have let it go further than that since these people already showed me how unprofessional they can be. I mean, the installer didn’t even bring his own ladder. But I chose to give them the benefit of the doubt and the installer came back a few days later with the proper bracket and then my 128k wireless was installed!

At this stage I was still happy with these people. I could browse the net at reasonable speeds and all was good. In the first month they had a minor amount of downtime which I was told was because Eskom was doing something with the power in the area or something like that, and that they had now put everything on battery back-up in case it happened again. Now I was still happy till I tried to use P2P like LimeWire, BitTorrent, etc. I was trying after 7:00pm (the Netcontacts site said that you can only use P2P from 7:00pm to 7:00am). So I phoned to find out why my P2P wasn’t working as I was told it should. Carey told me the scripts were probably just “misbehaving”. My problem was not sorted out until I phoned him a few times and he offered to connect to the high-site from his house and after 7 and check what was happening. He managed to sort out the problem from his house and I now thought, lekker, it’s sorted! But, it seemed that only through manual activation could they enable P2P (I think they run Mikrotik to manage their operation). So in that whole month I probably managed to use P2P about 4 times and I couldn’t have downloaded more than 500mb.

I had other problems in the following months. Firstly my Senao router that they supplied me with blew and my reseller had to come and replace it (under guarantee). And of course P2P wasn’t working still. I was told that “the scripts were fine and that the problem was not on their side” – this after trying on three different PC’s with WinXP SP2 and all, one being freshly formatted. After a while I couldn’t get hold of Carey on his cell and when I sent this via sms:

“hi carey. If you value me as a customer please phone me back. I tried to fone u 3 times today. I shouldn’t have to go through all this **** to get p2p to work. I would rather be on capped ADSL”

He replied with:

“Please take your business elsewhere, As we will no longer support p2p as the content is illegal.”

I then followed up with:

“how can you change your policy like that? You cannot assume that all applications of p2p r necessarily illegal.”

To which I got the priceless response of:

“I am a lawyer, don’t get smart with me!”

So I decided to cancel. I spoke to the tech guy and about this. But unfortunately my mom had already paid for the following month, July so I carried on using their service for another month.

During this time the tech guy was very helpful and managed to get P2P to work for ± 2 weeks and I was happier than I had been but still wanted to cancel because I found out that even if P2P does work, if the people at Megaserve/Netcontacts think you are downloading too much you get put in a heavy users pool with all other people that they think download too much (something that they neglected to mention to me when I signed on for this service). I was also told that everyone else could use P2P fine.

After all this, my Senao bridge broke yet again! That’s two bust wireless bridges in 3 months! I was told the equipment that they use is top notch and everything. I was trying to phone Carey to organize getting a refund on my equipment and Carey starts outright rejecting calls from my home number (just rang a few times and then went dead). I by chance managed to get hold of him when I phoned Megaserve support one day.

I spoke to him at approx 5:10PM on 1 August. I talked to him for roughly 5 minutes about wanting a refund because they were not making good on their promises. Carey now says it’s not their problem and says I have to take it up with the reseller. The reseller that he told me he fired! He was trying to shift the blame saying that they (Megaserve) had nothing to do with what was going wrong with my service and that I didn’t understand how they work.

Carey says they are getting irritated with me. Started to tell Carey that I wanted the full amount for the equipment because they didn’t make good on their promises . He asks me where I learnt business because he thinks I am insane for making this request. He then continued to explain why this is stupid by using an analogy, heh.

Carey: “If I sold you a car …(pause)… you understand analogies don’t you? Should I get out my crayons?
Me: muttered “f*** it” (up till this point in the conversation I refrained from swearing but he was just being plain and downright condescending)
Carey: “Don’t swear now. Go do your homework schoolboy!”
Me: at a loss for words, cannot believe a person like this can even be involved with clients in a business. Even if you think a client is being really unreasonable you shouldn’t be mean to them, that’s unnecessary and won’t do you any favours.

He then went on to threaten legal action against me. I really couldn’t believe my ears. He was angry because of what I have previously written on MyADSL and said he was going to post a comment about me. Wow, that’s mature. Writing slander about ex-customers is definitely not a good way to attract any new ones.

After this I had to wait almost a month to get my equipment bought back from me. My reseller (the one that Carey said he fired) suggested that I should rather sell my equipment that they sold me in the CapeAds because he would not give me R2300 for it. In the end, the most he was willing to pay me was R1500 for equipment I had owned less than 5 months. So basically when they say they will buy your equipment back, what they really mean is that they will give you barely just over half of what you originally paid for it.

I have a few requests:

1. Please “sticky” this, I believe this is a valid complaint and would like others to know about my experience
2. All other people that have used or still use Megaserve/Netcontacts wireless please post your opinions of their service and customer treatment so that other forum readers can get a broader view of the situation. Even if you have posted about them in the past! Bismay, Hunted, etc.
3. Anyone else please feel free to comment as well
4. Any feedback from anyone in Megaserve/Netcontacts will be appreciated.

And, lastly thank you for reading this! I feel really strongly about getting screwed over like this and I just had to let others know so that they don’t make the same mistake.
 
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This is on the link you posted...

"Netcontacts offers high speed Internet Access for businesses ONLY. Ideally suited for SOHO, medium, and large businesses, we do NOT cater for the private individual."

Is this a new development or did you get the service posing as a business?

Companies in SA just don't get it. They know only how to take your money, but as soon as something goes wrong they try get rid of you or ignore you. Unfortunately this seems to be the trend with only a few exceptions. On the other hand some customers can be out of line aswell. I use to work retail.....let me tell you some customers can just be plain crazy some times. In almost all circumstances the company should do whatever it takes to keep the customer happy.
 
Hey there,

I see that the site netcontacts.biz has only been updated today. Hope it wasnt to stressed the fact that they dont support individual user. To me the first paragraph seems a bit out of place. I tried to see if i can find what the site looks like before. Wayback usually keeps quite good watch on sites and the last version (well, before today) that they mirrored and since checked that the site hasnt changed was made on october 2004, it starts off with:

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Netcontacts offers high speed Internet Access for individuals and businesses alike. Ideally suited for SOHO, medium, and large businesses with training programs and multi-location facility.
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Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20041020043327/http://www.netcontacts.biz/

Some of the stuff they said to you was really out of line. I, for one, would stay away from them. I have this impression, rightly or wrongly, that the update on the site today was to counter your post.

Spiz
 
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The better WISP

I also had a very crap experience with Megaserve / Netcontacts. They are useless and thats it.

If you still have your equipment, then i can hook you up with a good WISP. I never had any problems. There none of that heavy user bullsh*t.

Ive been on the service for 4 months. 128K. No problems.

Pm me i'll give you my email address.
 
I've stickied this thread. Perhaps someone from Megaserve/Netcontacts would care to respond?
 
Thanks TheRodent, I really appreciate it!

@ P0tenc,

I did not pose as a business, they do also supply services to home users even though they don't say that on their site.

@Spindrift

Thanks 4 the link, when I signed up it said that they only supplied to businesses. I think that they maybe prepared that update as a counter to my post.

They now say P2P is a "best effort" service and that bandwidth is prioritised for businesses.

I am happy about that, at least I have helped them be more honest to their customers. I just hope that they are as honest to new people sigining up.
 
"Best effort" is wrong and totally pointless. Its a scapegoat used when you dont want to implement something.

So if P2P doesnt work they can just say "Shucks, we tried. It doesnt work. But its best effort so live without it or take your business elsewhere you pirating criminal." They might never have implemented the support for P2P in the first place or deliberately removed its support.

I am sorry i never considered Megaserve. I did try SAWireless with not even a reply to my questions, so i dropped the WISP idea completely.
 
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I am sorry i never considered Megaserve. I did try SAWireless with not even a reply to my questions, so i dropped the WISP idea completely.

what did you want to know from Us ?????????????

All email that we received from users we did respond back to and did pass it to our Cape Town Person, that’s if you stayed in the cape.
 
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i do not think this is the appropriate place to discuss SAWireless. i hope i do not intrude on this thread too much by making this statement: I asked whether my area is covered by SAWireless (yes, i do live in the Western Cape, but not in cape town) but never got an answer. Let us leave it at that please, i have moved on to different services. People who responded, albeit slow, got my business.
 
@ eye_suc

Very interesting what you say about "best effort". When I was with them they gave me their best effort to try get my P2P to even work, and when they couldn't even do that, they started getting irritated with me. Goes to show how much "best effort" means :( .
 
It seems that the majority of providers now have the line " best effort" , crikey please they must either provide it yes or no . come the end of the month i will make my "best effort" to pay the account.. :cool:
 
hello ratwiz

I am a customer of Netcontacts. signed up recently (2 weeks ago)

At the moment very happy. Looks good. Pay R249/ month for a permanent internet connection. No telkom. I can bank, check my emails, surf, etc not have to wait until after 7pm for "Call more time".. . cancelled with MWEB that charges me R149 per month (before I make my calls). I am really tired of Telkom... & not ready to give them money going the adsl route. Which is still expensive...

But your comments concern me.

I havent tried P2P. Is your main complaint P2P related? Are there other problems? Is the downtime often? Please explain? How many times in 5 months was the service down? From your post you mention downtime in your first month. How many times? How many time since then. My main concern is reliability.

Have you now gone the Helkom route? Have you found a better WISP? Netcontacts looks like the best value for money.

Your comments would be appreciated.
 
Netcontacts the BEST wisp around!

Rory McGee (aka Ratwiz) you seem to have a major gripe with Netcontacts, I however know the story as we arranged the installation at your parent’s house. Netcontacts provides business related services for business clients only, you though your parents (you unfortunately are not of a legal consenting age, is there not something that you have to be of a legal age to post on these forums?) applied for the service under the pretense that your dad would like to test it out for his business he ran. I spoke to one of the Techies regarding your complaints and it seems that after many many conversations by yourself and your parents thy finally managed to establish the root of your gripe was P2P related. (As Netcontacts does not support P2P) they specifically tried to assist you. Rory if you are so unhappy, go and get ADSL, and download your movies, music till your hearts content. One thing I know is that Netcontacts has hundreds of contented clients, there is no way you can keep everyone happy at all times, there will always be bad installations by those with the lure of money and a bad installation is bad signal and in most instances the service will suck. Netcontacts has unfortunately had installers/resellers give the wrong impression to clients, this apparently has been dealt with in advance so the reseller does not expect something that it is not. I have had many installers in my stable and had to redo many installations with dramatic increase in performance. Those complaints on this forum about Netcontacts could only be bad installations of those wanting to use P2P. If you have a bad signal/service contact me offline and I will send an installer around to have a look!
 
jackd said:
(you unfortunately are not of a legal consenting age, is there not something that you have to be of a legal age to post on these forums?)
There isn't an age restriction on the MyADSL Terms and Conditions, or forum rules. He seems to be able to express himself eloquently enough.
Ratwiz said:
Carey: “If I sold you a car …(pause)… you understand analogies don’t you? Should I get out my crayons?
How does JackD respond to the above allegation of a Netcontacts employee/contractor's behaviour towards a customer?
 
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re how does JackD respond to the various allegations - yup, its very
interesting to go through the initial complaint and then the response
- and see the various items that JackD DOESN'T address at all.

Those offensive statements for instance.. Any decent company, it
seems to me, would immediately address the reported statements
that were apparently made to a customer - instead, there's a total
silence on that aspect - but instead - there's a quite deliberate and
irrelevent mention made directly or indirectly, of the customers age/family
relationships (at least FIVE - SIX times!) in that post, a general pointing
towards 'other happy customers', a stating of the fact that bad service
could only be 'faulty installations' - not them, in other words - and a
vague suggestion intended to imply a 'helpfulness' at the end of it.

Its like a baby wannabee Telkom in training, in other words :)

'Nuff said it seems.
 
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WISPS experience

Hello! I live near somerset west and have had contact with alot of these WISPs folk. I finally found a good one.

I support Ratwiz here, the service provider is full of crap like most of them unfortunately and I speak from painful and expensive experience.

Firstly there ideal customer only users less than 1mb per day to check email.

Secondaly there ideal customer pays by debit order dilligently irrespective of downtime.

Thirdly there ideal customer never phones or feels the need to complain.

If you offer somebody 24hr internet access, that includes P2P, if you excluded P2P then it is not complete access. P2P is bandwidth hungry and they sell these so-called uncapped accounts, so all of a sudden they are all high and mighty about copyright laws meanwhile they are breaking telecommunication and probably income tax ones in the process.

So of these people are terrible, if they don't know how to answer a cell phone, how can they run an ISP?

JackD why don't you just help the kid out? too difficult or you too stupid?
 
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I was under the impression Megaserve served home users as well! Hmm, guess they cant. Strange though. Did their policy change recently?
 
It doesnt take much(6 posts) to realise who jackd is really defending, all his posts(all 6 of them) is relating to some WISP service.

Jackd feel free to actually participate in more than just your own advantages.
 
@ JackD

You really seem to be digging a grave for the reputation of your company. Since you openly blurted out who I am (Spelt it wrong, but whatever), I think the readers of this forum deserve to know your full name as well (The only person I can think of that would write that would be Carey Cooper. Hopefully yes, or that means there are even more corrupt people in Netcontacts). Firstly I would like to clear up a few things that you have said in your post:

applied for the service under the pretense that your dad would like to test it out for his business he ran.

That is not true. I dealt personally with Carey when I was finding out all the info about your service and was told that as a home user I could make use of the service (You can check the calls, since they are all recorded. Hell, you could even make them available for everyone to download if you want)

a bad installation is bad signal and in most instances the service will suck.

Please don't come with that. I was told by tech support that my connection was receiving the "full speed".

I feel that there are a lot of issues that you have not addressed. P2P is not my only gripe. I find it awfully convenient that you neglect everything else I have mentioned and just focus on P2P and that I am not that old. I would not have needed to write as much as I did if P2P was my only problem. I was not happy that I was lied to in the beginning so that you could sign me up for your wireless internet. Your service is not really uncapped, you neglect to mention that your service is slowed down if Megaserve thinks you download too much. Customer service that I received from Carey is appalling. They say judge a man by how he treats those that are inferior to himself. Obviously he thought just because I am a scholar that I didn't matter. Also I don't think it's fair that I got so little for my equipment. Make no mistake, I do not have a grudge against Megaserve. I tried my best to get you guys to improve your operation but in my opinion I don't think anyone should even go near your company.

Here is something funny for all of you that are following this thread to read. I just took a look at jackd's previous 6 posts and look what I found:

Hi All,

We initially signed up with Megaserve for the "business silver", it was ok. We now have the "business gold", this is pretty impressive to be honest. We have been with them for the last 2 months and have found their service to be excellent, NO bandwidth issues.

As our company is VERY dependant on e-mail, we find the national bandwidth to their mail servers lightning fast.

Thanks,
JD

ROFL :D "This is impressive to be honest". Oh yes, you are quite well-reknowned for your honesty I'll bet!

and:

I don't want to be funny but, if you are running a business one cannot afford to be down for more than an hour or two, let alone 3 days. So what if you get 30K today and "who knows tomorrow"

Speed wise, just go to the Uninet forums and you will see that speed is a real issue with users... No speed,

Now I have a friend who subscribes to a WISP called Netcontacts, downtime with them apparently does not exist. I also hear that all mail (to their servers) and banking sites are shaped to 512k irrespective of the package that the client chooses. Who knows, we chose copper and cannot verify if his claims are correct.

Yes, abandon the copper. It is rubbish. Rather have endless **** with Netconctacts. Hell, we'll even change major policies (P2P) while you're a customer.

All I know is that we had such bad service from Uninetwork that we were forced to move over to reliable copper. They were down more that they were up. We trying to call the helpdesk....

[RANT]
This actually makes me so mad! Here you are saying that another company is terrible and then pretending you have no affiliation with Netcontacts saying "oh, well I have a friend who says that he uses Netcontacts. I don't use it myself because it actually sucks d1ck, but I have a friend who uses it twice a month to check e-mail at lightning-speed and do internet banking". I don't know what kind of person can even be so stupid. :p Don't you know that all your posts are saved. Honestly, I thought you had to be tech-savvy to be involved in an ISP company.
[UNRANT]

Point made! jackd, I am really sorry I had to do this, but you gave me no choice. It seems pretty unanimous about how people feel about your company. The only nice comments I have seen, have been posted by er, you!

I would like to thank everyone for their feedback so far, keep it coming! I would like to specially thank TheRodent again for stickying this again, MyADSL is awesome.
 
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