Erwin clears air on state-owned Infraco

Why do they continue to tip-toe around the real issue?

There is nothing in this for the public, just state institutions, yet its our money.
 
President Thabo Mbeki raised the issue of telecoms costs again in his state of the nation address.
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How many times has our president mentioned this fact. I dont know about everyone else, but I'm getting sick and tired of hearing him make promises only to repeat them again the next year.

Its time he puts his money where his mouth is...
 
Kalvaer said:
How many times has our president mentioned this fact.
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And how many times has the minister responsible for said costs failed him miserably?

If my boss stood up at the company AGM and directly criticized my department's performance one year, I wouldn't be around the next year if we still had the same problem. :mad:

This is now year three...
 
Kalvaer said:
How many times has our president mentioned this fact. I dont know about everyone else, but I'm getting sick and tired of hearing him make promises only to repeat them again the next year.

Its time he puts his money where his mouth is...
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T-Bone has lost the plot. The first 20 minutes of his state of the nation speech he actually quoted what he said in previous state of the nation speeches.
 
rpm said:
THE new state-owned broadband entity, Infraco, “is not a telecommunications company”
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InfraCo is purely a facilities company for Neotel, housing the assets built by Neotel's shareholders, Transnet and Eskom, a perfectly normal model for telcos today.

From FinWeek, 30 November 2006:

"Public Enterprises Minister Alec Erwin said at the time of Manuel's budget allocation to InfraCo that it would speed up the introduction of Neotel's services... [Ministerial spokesperson Gaynor Kast] says InfraCo would be a utility-type company providing wholesale bandwidth to other operators rather than a fully-fledged telco offering voice and data services to end users. That would initially be on an exclusive basis to second national operator Neotel, as previously negotiated with the SNO."
 
Mbeki noted that SA’s trade deficit showed SA had not succeeded in building the capacity to produce the consumer and capital goods it needed.

No T-Bone, you should have noted that the GOVERNMENT had not succeeded in building the capacity to produce the consumer and capital goods it needed - seeing that SA in general has been begging you to make the necessary changes in order to build the said capacity for years now. :sick:
 
Another article on pretty much the same thing:

http://www.sabcnews.com/sci_tech/telecomms/0,2172,143630,00.html

However the government could not say by how much costs would be reduced. Dr Ivy Matsepe-Cassaburi, the communications minister, says they have to consider a number of issues first. Matsepe-Cassaburi says infrastructure and policies need to be put in place.
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Ivy wants a piece of the pie, but the DPE is trying very hard to make Infraco as independent from her and her lackeys as possible to avoid more stalling. For exactly that reason, I think it's our best chance for cheaper and more widespread telecoms in the near future.

Go Erwin Go!
 
Another tax payers funded venture to line of the pockets of goverment and their selected elite circle sold under the veil of cheaper telecoms to which a timeframe cannot be set. There's your summary
 
State controlled enterprises that ensure money flows to the top (even telkom is one of these) while excluding all capitalist market competition.

What was it called again? Ooooh ya, communism.

Have to have their greedy little paws in everything, own everything even if it means changing contracts and agreements, for instance with Neotel. Infraco is the company that Neotel once was before government decided to gut it and keep the lions share for itself, notably even before Neotel got going.

Alec Erwin should have been fired for lying to the south african people, oh but he did this at governments bidding. So what do we have? Liars and thieves. Then we wonder we have a crime problem.

:mad:
 
Governments influance

I agree with the above comment, there is something very amiss here.

The government has their finger in every single pie that handles communication. They can control the cost at every angle. A share in Telkom, Neotell leases their core infrastructure from them. Infraco will control costs. Government has a stake in the Essay project.

They can controll the cost at every angle and they can control communications. If you ask me they are no better that the old government, they are power hungry and they want to control everything communication wise.

I hope you all see the pattern here because I do!
 
Not to mention their influence over the public broadcaster and the banks.
 
Guys, this is the best chance we've seen for improvement in a while, at least give it a chance.
 
gljackson said:
Guys, this is the best chance we've seen for improvement in a while, at least give it a chance.
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I thought the same thing last year listening to our presidents speech.. and the same thing the year before that.. and the ... Oh blah.. Telkom has turned me into a pessimist
 
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