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2x ADSL on a single Line
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Snormossel
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To give you a long explanation the answer will be NO....
Just get a router that does routing and bridge mode at the same time, then you have one account on the router and then have another account on a PC...
What are you trying to do in die end???
Just get a router that does routing and bridge mode at the same time, then you have one account on the router and then have another account on a PC...
What are you trying to do in die end???
Neph
Member
In bridge mode you will be able to dailup with both accounts at the same time.
But does any1 know wither or not you will get twice the speed 384*2 or will you but stuck at 384kbps? I believe you stuck at 384 speed
But does any1 know wither or not you will get twice the speed 384*2 or will you but stuck at 384kbps? I believe you stuck at 384 speed
Snormossel
Expert Member
Yup you stuck on 384
It actually gets "devided" when you dial up with the 2 accounts at the same time..
You'll be limited to 384kbps.
Your line speed is limited to the 384K or 512K or whatever.
You can connect 10 pc's upto the router if u added a HUB of sorts.
U don't need 2 routers, 1 Router in bridged mode can be used for 10 PC's. With each pc dailing into a different ISP *but the speed will be limited to the line speed*
You can connect 10 pc's upto the router if u added a HUB of sorts.
U don't need 2 routers, 1 Router in bridged mode can be used for 10 PC's. With each pc dailing into a different ISP *but the speed will be limited to the line speed*
wanna connect 2 routers on same line coz i got a pc in an outbuilding that i want to be connected to ADSL and I realy am not in the mood to install a network between buildings, rather just plug in a 2nd router if possible .. the outbuilding got same telkom ADSL running to it
Rrunning two simultaneously on the same line isnt going to work.
Have you thought about setting up a wireless lan between the structures?
I have now noticed this topic of "bridging" your router/modem to enable a multiple dial-up with 2 DSL accounts on 1 line in quite a few threads. However, I yet have to see ANYONE actually provide any detail in setting this up apart from referring vaguely to RouteSentry etc (which, for your information, does not yet work on Vista albeit a beta version).
In my opinion Windows (being it XP or Vista) does not allow to have two "active" PPoE connections at the same time (especially when set up in dial-up mode. One connection always gets terminated when you activate the second.
It would be great if anyone is prepared to put their "knowledge" to display here!
In my opinion Windows (being it XP or Vista) does not allow to have two "active" PPoE connections at the same time (especially when set up in dial-up mode. One connection always gets terminated when you activate the second.
It would be great if anyone is prepared to put their "knowledge" to display here!
bekdik
Honorary Master
Quick answer - set your router to bridge mode. Create a pppoe connection for each adsl account on each pc. connect with each of the accounts.
Moederloos
Honorary Master
The explanation is long and involved.
I use a dedicated router box for this - and I have up to 4 ADSL connections at a time, although three is my more common.
On Windows, I have no idea if you can do 2+ PPPoE, but, assuming you can, you will need to ensure only one is the default route.
The other needs to have hard routes (in fact, the dedicated router box is the same - its just more transparent to the PCs).
I use a dedicated router box for this - and I have up to 4 ADSL connections at a time, although three is my more common.
On Windows, I have no idea if you can do 2+ PPPoE, but, assuming you can, you will need to ensure only one is the default route.
The other needs to have hard routes (in fact, the dedicated router box is the same - its just more transparent to the PCs).
How you set up bridging is entirely dependent on your router. For my SMC baracade no changes were required. I have 5 different machines accessing the internet with their own accounts as well as a generic one on the router itself.
My neighbours are also free to access the internet using my router (via wifi) as long as they have their own account.
RouteSentry on the other hand is an app for using two accounts on one pc - generally a local only account and a different account for international.
Some fast typing here...
This is the snag - I use 1 PC and want to do the local vs international split thing (hence my comment on the Windows PPoE limitation).
Don't want to hi-jack this thread though....but anyone know where I can get more info on a 1 PC setup with multiple accounts?
This is the snag - I use 1 PC and want to do the local vs international split thing (hence my comment on the Windows PPoE limitation).
Don't want to hi-jack this thread though....but anyone know where I can get more info on a 1 PC setup with multiple accounts?
XP or Vista? RouteSentry has worked for countless people on XP.
Moederloos
Honorary Master
b007Cyber:
if you have a router that supports PPPoE and at the same time a connection on itself, then:
Make the router connect to IS account and PPPoE to SAIX.
PPPoE is default gateway.
Then, add a route to the PC for all the local accounts you want to go via IS - normally, people want this for IS news groups, so, an example.
route add -p [ip of news server] mask 255.255.255.255 [ip of router]
voila.
if you have a router that supports PPPoE and at the same time a connection on itself, then:
Make the router connect to IS account and PPPoE to SAIX.
PPPoE is default gateway.
Then, add a route to the PC for all the local accounts you want to go via IS - normally, people want this for IS news groups, so, an example.
route add -p [ip of news server] mask 255.255.255.255 [ip of router]
voila.
Thanks Moederloos - lost you there for a moment.
My setup is as follows (two routers on same network):
(1) A Netgear DG834GT running in modem (bridge?) mode and configured with an IP of 192.168.0.1 (subnet 255.255.0.0). My Telkom ADSL line is connected to this modem (I know this is an overkill but had it "spare");
(2) A Netgear WNR854T running in normal router mode with IP 192.168.1.1 (subnet 255.255.0.0) - this acts as my DHCP server as well. This router does not have a modem built-in but due to its great range (802.11n with Gigabit switch) acts as the main router for wifi and wired network ;
(3) The modem is connected to the router's WAN port;
(4) A static route is setup to point to 192.168.0.1 (in order run the modem web configuration from within my LAN);
(5) Router's PPoE info has been setup to include Mweb DSL connection details
MWeb is my international account. I also have a OpenWeb 30G local account. The idea is to split traffic (I have Vista to answer the RouteSentry question).
I tried to clear the PPoE field in router and select the option of not needing a login to ISP (with idea to setup 2 broadband dial-up links for each ISP and then dial as needed manually - since I cant get RS to work on Vista.
A Microsoft MVP suggested I consider a Linux box to do this?
thank you
My setup is as follows (two routers on same network):
(1) A Netgear DG834GT running in modem (bridge?) mode and configured with an IP of 192.168.0.1 (subnet 255.255.0.0). My Telkom ADSL line is connected to this modem (I know this is an overkill but had it "spare");
(2) A Netgear WNR854T running in normal router mode with IP 192.168.1.1 (subnet 255.255.0.0) - this acts as my DHCP server as well. This router does not have a modem built-in but due to its great range (802.11n with Gigabit switch) acts as the main router for wifi and wired network ;
(3) The modem is connected to the router's WAN port;
(4) A static route is setup to point to 192.168.0.1 (in order run the modem web configuration from within my LAN);
(5) Router's PPoE info has been setup to include Mweb DSL connection details
MWeb is my international account. I also have a OpenWeb 30G local account. The idea is to split traffic (I have Vista to answer the RouteSentry question).
I tried to clear the PPoE field in router and select the option of not needing a login to ISP (with idea to setup 2 broadband dial-up links for each ISP and then dial as needed manually - since I cant get RS to work on Vista.
A Microsoft MVP suggested I consider a Linux box to do this?
thank you
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Windows XP can make 2 pppoe simultaneuos connections.... u need to install "rasspppoe".....
Simple solution:
When you leave one of the rooms... turn off adsl router ( or connect its power to that of the light bulb circuit so when you enter or leave the room the internet gets connected/disconnected)
As long as only 1 router is powered on at a time i dnt see why it woudnt work if the other 1 is plugged into adsl line but powered off?
Simple solution:
When you leave one of the rooms... turn off adsl router ( or connect its power to that of the light bulb circuit so when you enter or leave the room the internet gets connected/disconnected)
As long as only 1 router is powered on at a time i dnt see why it woudnt work if the other 1 is plugged into adsl line but powered off?
Jonny Two Shoes
Expert Member
How I would do this is as follows:
You have a default local account pppoe....Enable a virtual circuit (Pvc0) and setup this account as per normal without bridged mode. Your router should dial this connection automatically and everyone connected to this router should be able to access local sites without dialing in anything in windows...just plug and play
Then enable another Virtual Circuit on the router (Pvc1)...select bridged mode as well as 1483 Bridged IP LLC encapsulation. Leave username password and service blank and submit\save to router. This allows you to dial in a pppoe account. Setup the dial-up in windows to test.
Then use routesentry to organise between the two connections. (havent got this far yet but theoretically it should work
) Your LAN\WAN connection will allow you access to local sites and your dial-up to International. You can probably do this setup entirely the other way around as well but I would rather restrict the International access through dial-up so not everyone has it.
You have a default local account pppoe....Enable a virtual circuit (Pvc0) and setup this account as per normal without bridged mode. Your router should dial this connection automatically and everyone connected to this router should be able to access local sites without dialing in anything in windows...just plug and play
Then enable another Virtual Circuit on the router (Pvc1)...select bridged mode as well as 1483 Bridged IP LLC encapsulation. Leave username password and service blank and submit\save to router. This allows you to dial in a pppoe account. Setup the dial-up in windows to test.
Then use routesentry to organise between the two connections. (havent got this far yet but theoretically it should work
) Your LAN\WAN connection will allow you access to local sites and your dial-up to International. You can probably do this setup entirely the other way around as well but I would rather restrict the International access through dial-up so not everyone has it.Thanks Jonny
My modem does not allow for setting up Pvc0/1. since I am using a wireless router (Netgear DG834GT) set to modem mode, I have limited options to choose (i.e. VC/LLC, IP address etc). I presume such a setup will dial any connection from Windows (via the broadband dial-up function).
Do you know if one will still be able to run 2 connections this way?
My modem does not allow for setting up Pvc0/1. since I am using a wireless router (Netgear DG834GT) set to modem mode, I have limited options to choose (i.e. VC/LLC, IP address etc). I presume such a setup will dial any connection from Windows (via the broadband dial-up function).
Do you know if one will still be able to run 2 connections this way?
Bwana, have I misread your line "as well as a generic one on the router itself."
I'm understanding this as you have a router that makes a PPPoE through your main router that is set up in bridged mode.
If this is so, I'm trying to do just this.
I have my router set to Half-Bridged mode, and I want to now, instead of making windows dialout through the bridged half, I want to set up another router (on the same network) to dial out through the bridge.
I'm guessing its just a matter of choosing the correct Encapsulation method.
Both my routers - BiPAC 7300GA
edit:Sorry for highjack