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UrBaN963 said:
Depends what the use case is. For gaming, no. For work and multi-threaded applications, yes.
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Well I’d game , run some VMs , planning to also set up a gaming vm so a friend and myself can game at the same time on the same machine (Linus pulled this off) but that’s it

Doubt this would require more than 10 cores
 
William1102 said:
Well I’d game , run some VMs , planning to also set up a gaming vm so a friend and myself can game at the same time on the same machine (Linus pulled this off) but that’s it

Doubt this would require more than 10 cores
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Watch this. The comparison itself is good but in the summary he addresses the 13500 as well.

 
UrBaN963 said:
Watch this. The comparison itself is good but in the summary he addresses the 13500 as well.

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So from what I see it’s not that much different

Was also considering the i5 13400 or the Ryzen 5 7600 or X

Not sure if AMD might be better but I will be pairing it with 16Gb of RAM and a RTX 3060 Ti

But open to suggestions on any changes I should make would like to play some games at 4K along as it’s 60fps fine using DLSS should help ?

If any upgrades or improvements I’d like to know

Thanks
 
William1102 said:
So from what I see it’s not that much different

Was also considering the i5 13400 or the Ryzen 5 7600 or X

Not sure if AMD might be better but I will be pairing it with 16Gb of RAM and a RTX 3060 Ti

But open to suggestions on any changes I should make would like to play some games at 4K along as it’s 60fps fine using DLSS should help ?

If any upgrades or improvements I’d like to know

Thanks
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I don't think you're playing 4K 60FPS with a 3060Ti, even with DLSS. If gaming is the priority, get a 13100/13400 or 5700X and spend more on the GPU.

EDIT: As the resolution gets higher, the CPU becomes less important. So at 1080P you're generally CPU limited and a faster CPU can make a huge difference. At 1440p or 4K you're more likely to be GPU limited, so spending the extra in the GPU will net you better results.

If you could go for something like a second hand 3080 you'd be in a far better position.
 
William1102 said:
So from what I see it’s not that much different

Was also considering the i5 13400 or the Ryzen 5 7600 or X

Not sure if AMD might be better but I will be pairing it with 16Gb of RAM and a RTX 3060 Ti

But open to suggestions on any changes I should make would like to play some games at 4K along as it’s 60fps fine using DLSS should help ?

If any upgrades or improvements I’d like to know

Thanks
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How urgent is this? Keep in mind the current Intel socket will be EOL soon to be replaced by the new 14th gen socket whatever it's called. Current motherboards will not be compatible with 14th gen.
 
ponder said:
How urgent is this? Keep in mind the current Intel socket will be EOL soon to be replaced by the new 14th gen socket whatever it's called. Current motherboards will not be compatible with 14th gen.
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It’s not urgent but considering 14th gen is coming out next year I can’t wait another year on this build

Delayed the build for AMD and Intel 13th gen
 
UrBaN963 said:
I don't think you're playing 4K 60FPS with a 3060Ti, even with DLSS. If gaming is the priority, get a 13100/13400 or 5700X and spend more on the GPU.

EDIT: As the resolution gets higher, the CPU becomes less important. So at 1080P you're generally CPU limited and a faster CPU can make a huge difference. At 1440p or 4K you're more likely to be GPU limited, so spending the extra in the GPU will net you better results.

If you could go for something like a second hand 3080 you'd be in a far better position.
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A 3070 ? I’d like to buy second hand but prefer a reputable retailer like wootware or something

Seen some second hand online deals go wrong
 
UrBaN963 said:
I don't think you're playing 4K 60FPS with a 3060Ti, even with DLSS. If gaming is the priority, get a 13100/13400 or 5700X and spend more on the GPU.

EDIT: As the resolution gets higher, the CPU becomes less important. So at 1080P you're generally CPU limited and a faster CPU can make a huge difference. At 1440p or 4K you're more likely to be GPU limited, so spending the extra in the GPU will net you better results.

If you could go for something like a second hand 3080 you'd be in a far better position.
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I’ve seen some videos on 12th gen i5 running 4K high with dlss 60fps
 
William1102 said:
I’ve seen some videos on 12th gen i5 running 4K high with dlss 60fps
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At 4K it isn't about the CPU, it's about the GPU. The CPU does play into it but a 13900K with a 3060 gets lower framerates than a 13100 with a 4090. It's the GPU that matters at higher resolutions, not the CPU.
 
UrBaN963 said:
At 4K it isn't about the CPU, it's about the GPU. The CPU does play into it but a 13900K with a 3060 gets lower framerates than a 13100 with a 4090. It's the GPU that matters at higher resolutions, not the CPU.
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My bad forgot to type 3060 Ti in the message,


Runs 4K DLSS on a few games with the 3060 Ti but has a Ryzen 7
Hopefully this is trustworthy ?

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Or is a 3070 a better option
 
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ponder said:
14th gen is second halve of this year.
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Is it the high end chips like the K series or the non K i3 and i5s coming out first like with the 13th gen launch K series came first then i3 and i5

i3 and i5 13th gen just came out doubt new 14th gen non K i5 will release so soon ?
 
Honestly playing on a 65 inch 4K tv would there be a noticeable difference playing on 1440p or with 4K DLSS ?

I do apologize for the many questions just budget being an issue can’t really go higher than a 3070 checked some 3080s but like my build with a 3060ti totaled 22k and a 3080 was 15k
 
William1102 said:
Is it the high end chips like the K series or the non K i3 and i5s coming out first like with the 13th gen launch K series came first then i3 and i5

i3 and i5 13th gen just came out doubt new 14th gen non K i5 will release so soon ?
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I don't know, I'll have to Google but doubt that would give specifics.
 
William1102 said:
Honestly playing on a 65 inch 4K tv would there be a noticeable difference playing on 1440p or with 4K DLSS ?

I do apologize for the many questions just budget being an issue can’t really go higher than a 3070 checked some 3080s but like my build with a 3060ti totaled 22k and a 3080 was 15k
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4k dlss will look better but not sure about the fps compared to 1440p. If you go look at some hardware unboxed videos you could get an idea wrt the fps performance.
 
William1102 said:
Honestly playing on a 65 inch 4K tv would there be a noticeable difference playing on 1440p or with 4K DLSS ?

I do apologize for the many questions just budget being an issue can’t really go higher than a 3070 checked some 3080s but like my build with a 3060ti totaled 22k and a 3080 was 15k
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4K DLSS Quality would look better than native 1440P on a 4K monitor but you would lose some performance, TechPowerup using a 4080 saw about 6-7% fps less using 4K with DLSS Quality vs 1440P Native in Cyberpunk.
Source : https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-dlss-2-5-1/

Here a video testing the 3060Ti running Hogwarts Legacy(No Ray Tracing) at various resolutions and DLSS settings, should give you some idea what kind of performance you can expect with 4K using DLSS.
Note : The channel below zWORMz Gaming has quite a few videos doing this kind of testing on the 3060ti.


 
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Thanks guys might go for the 3060 TI if I can find a 3070 at a good price then that would be preferred

But considering NVIDIA could be announcing 4070 and 4060s 22nd of Feb think it would be wise to wait?
 
William1102 said:
Thanks guys might go for the 3060 TI if I can find a 3070 at a good price then that would be preferred

But considering NVIDIA could be announcing 4070 and 4060s 22nd of Feb think it would be wise to wait?
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I have used rtx 3070 layign around if need one :)
 
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