Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 8

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Cray said:
Invading Ukraine seems an awfully costly scenario compared to laying pipe to a water source elsewhere in Russia.
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I never claimed it was the only reason they invaded just one of the reasons that I personally had not seen mentioned much.

Getting that volume of water all the way from Russia to Crimea across the ocean would have been a massive undertaking, never mind extremely costly and also would have needed additional distribution to the farmlands. And for that to even be feasible they would have needed a water source in Russia of sufficient volume and consistent supply very near to Crimea. All without cannibalizing their existing water needs in those areas which appears to primarily be agriculture which would have already put the squeeze on their water resources. I don't think they had many options.

Ukraine turning off the taps must have been a slap in the face that left them smarting. It's clear Russia thought taking Ukraine would be a walk in the park so the cost they are paying now may not have been counted when they choose to invade.
 
You can see what a huge problem the loss of the water would have meant, the canal is the red line and it supplies the whole of the Crimean peninsula and without it Crimea can't do much. Having to reverse engineer that by supplying water over the ocean from Russia would be ridiculously difficult and expensive and require a lot of costly pumping and maintenance.

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tetrasect said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1645048922312941569
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I take it for granted that Trump and Co. colluded with Putin and Co.

For instance when I heard about the leaked strategic info, once again, my first thought was that they should review there security protocols, routing devices, passwords, etc. Of everything Trump might have been in contact with. The moment Trump had a meeting with Lavrov in the oval office where RT was allowed, but US reporters were banned, I felt that they likely need a thorough spring cleaning/debugging/de-lice/whathaveyou of all security and intelligence gathering apparatus.
 

In defiant speech, Kremlin critic Kara-Murza likens his case to Stalin’s USSR show trials​

Facing up to a quarter of a century in jail on treason charges he denies, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza has told a Moscow court his trial recalled one of Josef Stalin’s show trials in the 1930s and said he had done nothing wrong.
Russian state prosecutors on Thursday requested a 25-year prison sentence for Kara-Murza, who they accuse of treason and of discrediting the Russian military after he criticised what Moscow calls its “special military operation” in Ukraine.
His trial, which will culminate in a verdict on April 17, is being held behind closed doors, but a copy of his final speech to the court on Monday was made available by his wife and lawyer.
In it, he struck a defiant tone, declined to ask the court to acquit him, and said he stood by and was proud of everything he had said. The current environment, he said, was not so much like the 1970s – a period when the state faced off against Soviet dissidents – as the 1930s, when Stalin conducted a series of show trials and purges of his opponents.
“For me, as a historian, this is cause for reflection,” said Kara-Murza. “Criminals are supposed to repent of what they have done. I, on the other hand, am in prison for my political views. I also know that the day will come when the darkness over our country will dissipate.”
 
airborne said:
I never claimed it was the only reason they invaded just one of the reasons that I personally had not seen mentioned much.

Getting that volume of water all the way from Russia to Crimea across the ocean would have been a massive undertaking, never mind extremely costly and also would have needed additional distribution to the farmlands. And for that to even be feasible they would have needed a water source in Russia of sufficient volume and consistent supply very near to Crimea. All without cannibalizing their existing water needs in those areas which appears to primarily be agriculture which would have already put the squeeze on their water resources. I don't think they had many options.

Ukraine turning off the taps must have been a slap in the face that left them smarting. It's clear Russia thought taking Ukraine would be a walk in the park so the cost they are paying now may not have been counted when they choose to invade.
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A number of desalination plants would have been cheaper than this invasion.
 
airborne said:
You can see what a huge problem the loss of the water would have meant, the canal is the red line and it supplies the whole of the Crimean peninsula and without it Crimea can't do much. Having to reverse engineer that by supplying water over the ocean from Russia would be ridiculously difficult and expensive and require a lot of costly pumping and maintenance.

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I'll try not be condescending but you keep on with airy fairy "over the ocean" is so difficult.

You do realise that it would have been a lot cheaper to simply add a water pipeline to the Kerch bridge than a full scale invasion? It would also be shorter than the canal from the Kherson region...
 
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