The weight loss thread

BBSA said:
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Wow, you really are highly biased. GLP1 are huge game changer to do many people. For some people with insulin and glucose issues, it not just a case of calories and calories out, just train harder and you will lose weight.

Do you think 1 out of 8 people in the US are on a GLP because they are bad?
 
calypso said:
Wow, you really are highly biased. GLP1 are huge game changer to do many people. For some people with insulin and glucose issues, it not just a case of calories and calories out, just train harder and you will lose weight.

Do you think 1 out of 8 people in the US are on a GLP because they are bad?
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No I don't think they are bad, I think the health and education system has failed them.

Weight loss is not simply a matter of “eat less and train harder.” The body isn’t a calculator, it’s a hormonal system. Hormones like insulin, leptin, ghrelin and cortisol determine whether energy is stored as fat or burned as fuel.

You can force a calorie deficit through willpower and exercise, but if your hormonal environment promotes fat storage and constant hunger, the body will compensate by slowing metabolism and increasing appetite. That’s why many people regain weight despite intense effort.

Understanding how food timing, food type and stress affect hormones, and working with those signals rather than against them, is far more sustainable than trying to out-exercise biology.

The aim is to become fat-adapted, teaching your body to burn stored fat efficiently instead of constantly relying on incoming food. When that switch happens, weight loss stops feeling like a constant struggle.
 
I am insulin-resistant. Losing weight & keeping it off is an everyday struggle.
 
BBSA said:
No I don't think they are bad, I think the health and education system has failed them.

Weight loss is not simply a matter of “eat less and train harder.” The body isn’t a calculator, it’s a hormonal system. Hormones like insulin, leptin, ghrelin and cortisol determine whether energy is stored as fat or burned as fuel.

You can force a calorie deficit through willpower and exercise, but if your hormonal environment promotes fat storage and constant hunger, the body will compensate by slowing metabolism and increasing appetite. That’s why many people regain weight despite intense effort.

Understanding how food timing, food type and stress affect hormones, and working with those signals rather than against them, is far more sustainable than trying to out-exercise biology.

The aim is to become fat-adapted, teaching your body to burn stored fat efficiently instead of constantly relying on incoming food. When that switch happens, weight loss stops feeling like a constant struggle.
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So why then link a video which shows 2 people who have had more plastic surgery than Cher and blame it on GLP's?
Ozempic for that matter is so old its hardly used anymore, the market has moved to Tirzepatide and off label Retatrutide. And this scare mongering about the court cases? Ozempic has been on the market for 8 years, about 20-30 million people use GLPs. How many cases has Novo Nordisk lost or settled in these 8 years? 0.

Im sorry, but your response just feels like an LLM pushing an agenda.

Not everything is solved by a low carb diet.
 
ice_cubes said:
I am insulin-resistant. Losing weight & keeping it off is an everyday struggle.
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Strongly suggest that you see a specialist Dr that understands this field well, and no MYBB.
And yes, they will probably put you on a GLP.

Let us know later about how much things have improved since.
 
calypso said:
So why then link a video which shows 2 people who have had more plastic surgery than Cher and blame it on GLP's?
Ozempic for that matter is so old its hardly used anymore, the market has moved to Tirzepatide and off label Retatrutide. And this scare mongering about the court cases? Ozempic has been on the market for 8 years, about 20-30 million people use GLPs. How many cases has Novo Nordisk lost or settled in these 8 years? 0.

Im sorry, but your response just feels like an LLM pushing an agenda.

Not everything is solved by a low carb diet.
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I’m just giving the other side of the story, and I’m sure you don’t want everyone agreeing all the time.

One of the big concerns with weight-loss injections is that people often end up eating too little protein, which leads to muscle loss with all the long-term consequences going with it.

My point is that there aren’t only two choices: strict dieting or injections. There’s a third option, learning how to diet properly. In the long run, that’s usually the best path for sustainable weight control and overall health.
 
BBSA said:
I’m just giving the other side of the story, and I’m sure you don’t want everyone agreeing all the time.

One of the big concerns with weight-loss injections is that people often end up eating too little protein, which leads to muscle loss with all the long-term consequences going with it.

My point is that there aren’t only two choices: strict dieting or injections. There’s a third option, learning how to diet properly. In the long run, that’s usually the best path for sustainable weight control and overall health.
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Posting a massively biased and inaccurate video isn't "the other side of the story" its pushing an agenda.
I mean also scaremongering again now with too little protein. People are adults, if they are getting their GLPs via a doctor, they will be well aware of their protein goals.
That being said, someone who is obese can get away with being a bit low on protein to get to a healthy weight. If you lose muscle in proportion to fat its just called losing weight. Remember the guy who did the world's longest fast (382 days) he lost 125kgs, no protein and was doing just fine afterwards.

A diet is going to fix everyone. So instead of posting videos with a bias, why not look at some real people with real experiences.

 
calypso said:
Posting a massively biased and inaccurate video isn't "the other side of the story" its pushing an agenda.
I mean also scaremongering again now with too little protein. People are adults, if they are getting their GLPs via a doctor, they will be well aware of their protein goals.
That being said, someone who is obese can get away with being a bit low on protein to get to a healthy weight. If you lose muscle in proportion to fat its just called losing weight. Remember the guy who did the world's longest fast (382 days) he lost 125kgs, no protein and was doing just fine afterwards.

A diet is going to fix everyone. So instead of posting videos with a bias, why not look at some real people with real experiences.

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All I'm saying is that people must think twice before the take the easy option.
 
BBSA said:
I’m just giving the other side of the story, and I’m sure you don’t want everyone agreeing all the time.

One of the big concerns with weight-loss injections is that people often end up eating too little protein, which leads to muscle loss with all the long-term consequences going with it.

My point is that there aren’t only two choices: strict dieting or injections. There’s a third option, learning how to diet properly. In the long run, that’s usually the best path for sustainable weight control and overall health.
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I bet you also think all EVs catch fire and run out of battery in 5km in the winter, amirite?

Same pattern of scaremongering FUD.
 
BBSA said:
I have no real option on EVs.

If you did your homework and you are happy with taking the injection, then it is all good.
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You also have no experiance on GLP's.
But here you are telling people about how terrible they are.
 
There’s always someone that claims to know better about weight loss here. (Not a dig at you @BBSA). A number of years ago it was OMB. And it didn’t matter that people lost weight in various ways be it kj counting or banting, he always knew better.

In my case it’s actually very easy, cut out daily alcohol, snacks and junk food and I lose 10-15kg in 4-5 months. Easy peasy.

Problem has always been maintaining it and in my case it was always financial/career stress that undid it.

Things are different now so I expect it to last this time. Lost 20kg in 2011 and 19kg in 2022. Will do the same again and expect it to last this time…

Do whatever works for you. If it’s drugs so what?
 
purrr said:
Do whatever works for you. If it’s drugs so what?
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I just prefer addressing the root cause rather than relying on something long-term if I can avoid it. If you take the medication but don’t change your lifestyle, you’re unlikely to get a good long-term health outcome. And if you do decide to go the medication route, it’s important to understand the side effects and possible long-term consequences.
 
Just got my annual bloods back.
Liver disease markers (ALT) reduced to normal range
Kidney injury markers reduced to normal range
Total blood lipids 4.3, of which triglycerides 2.65 - and this was a non-fasting test. HDL 0.99
Hba1c 30

Bear in mind I've just come back from a 2 week cruise with all you can eat buffet food, lots of burgers and chips :D Guaranteed to have affected the lipid profile somewhat.
 
BBSA said:
All I'm saying is that people must think twice before the take the easy option.
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For someone who thinks doctors shouldnt be trusted you sure think that we should trust you..

It is ironic how you punt health options because "I did the research"

You nullified everything by being a health sceptic.
 
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