Kosmik
Honorary Master
I think this needs a discussion or a refresh if before. Basically as the title says, respecting people's private lives and time by employers.
In the EU I think, there is now the "right to disconnect".
en.wikipedia.org
Personally I've had prior experiences where there have been expectations of work outside of the normal hours or response. Pre covid, it was often driven by folks leaving tasks to last minute but then expecting bailouts by others to assist, of course with the expectation of it needing to be done even though it was dropped 5 minutes before end of day on Friday and needed for something urgent during the weekend or by first thing Monday.
During and post covid, it's gotten worse Remote work or even return to office and from remote work, is the expectation of instant communication . Where tools like teams, zoom, slack etc were meant to provide collaboration and improved communication, are now often used as a means to expect replies or service after hours or on off times.
Don't get me wrong, there are times when responses are needed as when critical infrastructure fails or immediate issues arise but those are emergencies and critical failures. Not common place or unrealistic expectations dropped in the dying minutes.
Never mind my own experiences, I have friends who are part of a company that has now asked for employees to work in a group, out of company time, to submit a concept/project competitively.... and the reward.... more work and camaraderie. Family members in non tech fields are doing lecture and teaching work, spending long hours at night and weekends , drowning additional admin and load.
To be honest, I personally drew a line years ago when I realized that folks won't. But so many are stuck doing it. Many of the older generation also keep going because of the work culture they were raised in. People, homes and families live's are being destroyed and it feels worse every year.
Regardless, thought it worth starting a thread to share stories and for folks to vent or express thoughts and frustrations.
In the EU I think, there is now the "right to disconnect".
Right to disconnect - Wikipedia
Personally I've had prior experiences where there have been expectations of work outside of the normal hours or response. Pre covid, it was often driven by folks leaving tasks to last minute but then expecting bailouts by others to assist, of course with the expectation of it needing to be done even though it was dropped 5 minutes before end of day on Friday and needed for something urgent during the weekend or by first thing Monday.
During and post covid, it's gotten worse Remote work or even return to office and from remote work, is the expectation of instant communication . Where tools like teams, zoom, slack etc were meant to provide collaboration and improved communication, are now often used as a means to expect replies or service after hours or on off times.
Don't get me wrong, there are times when responses are needed as when critical infrastructure fails or immediate issues arise but those are emergencies and critical failures. Not common place or unrealistic expectations dropped in the dying minutes.
Never mind my own experiences, I have friends who are part of a company that has now asked for employees to work in a group, out of company time, to submit a concept/project competitively.... and the reward.... more work and camaraderie. Family members in non tech fields are doing lecture and teaching work, spending long hours at night and weekends , drowning additional admin and load.
To be honest, I personally drew a line years ago when I realized that folks won't. But so many are stuck doing it. Many of the older generation also keep going because of the work culture they were raised in. People, homes and families live's are being destroyed and it feels worse every year.
Regardless, thought it worth starting a thread to share stories and for folks to vent or express thoughts and frustrations.
