Dishwasher (machine not wife)

2026 reboot.

Looking at getting a machine as the toddler means more dishes than I can currently cope with. There is the matter of finding a space for it but I will consult a carpenter and plumber to modify the cupboards and install water and drain pipes for the inlet and outlets.

I'm looking to spend a modest amount (most certainly not the R15k+ that Miele wants) for an undercounter dishwasher in Appliance Grey, is Bosch/Hisense still the go-to nowadays? Currently leaning towards Hisense as my current Bosch oven has not been the best in terms of reliability - the touch panel sometimes has ghost touches and the part alone costs more than a whole new oven and hob set.
 
PhireSide said:
2026 reboot.

Looking at getting a machine as the toddler means more dishes than I can currently cope with. There is the matter of finding a space for it but I will consult a carpenter and plumber to modify the cupboards and install water and drain pipes for the inlet and outlets.

I'm looking to spend a modest amount (most certainly not the R15k+ that Miele wants) for an undercounter dishwasher in Appliance Grey, is Bosch/Hisense still the go-to nowadays? Currently leaning towards Hisense as my current Bosch oven has not been the best in terms of reliability - the touch panel sometimes has ghost touches and the part alone costs more than a whole new oven and hob set.
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My Bosch is still going strong 10 years later.
 
PhireSide said:
2026 reboot.

Looking at getting a machine as the toddler means more dishes than I can currently cope with. There is the matter of finding a space for it but I will consult a carpenter and plumber to modify the cupboards and install water and drain pipes for the inlet and outlets.

I'm looking to spend a modest amount (most certainly not the R15k+ that Miele wants) for an undercounter dishwasher in Appliance Grey, is Bosch/Hisense still the go-to nowadays? Currently leaning towards Hisense as my current Bosch oven has not been the best in terms of reliability - the touch panel sometimes has ghost touches and the part alone costs more than a whole new oven and hob set.
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Very happy with my 5yr old Hisense.
 
PhireSide said:
2026 reboot.

Looking at getting a machine as the toddler means more dishes than I can currently cope with. There is the matter of finding a space for it but I will consult a carpenter and plumber to modify the cupboards and install water and drain pipes for the inlet and outlets.

I'm looking to spend a modest amount (most certainly not the R15k+ that Miele wants) for an undercounter dishwasher in Appliance Grey, is Bosch/Hisense still the go-to nowadays? Currently leaning towards Hisense as my current Bosch oven has not been the best in terms of reliability - the touch panel sometimes has ghost touches and the part alone costs more than a whole new oven and hob set.
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All very similar nowadays. I would buy for warranty duration. I would go with a Defy dish washer as some have cutlery baskets plus top cutlery trays, with 5-year warranties.
 
My Bosch is still going strong after at least 15 years in use with sometimes/often twice a day usage. Once in a while some bigger piece gets stuck in the impellor, but that is easy to clean. The fine mesh is giving in now, so I ordered a spare part. Hopefully is going to last me another 5 years or more.

If it dies one day which is of course inevitable, I'll get a Bosch again. Hopefully can still find one without all the many programs. This one is still old school. One dial button and an on of switch
 
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Bosch 15 years ago is not the same as Bosch in 2026. Everything is on par these days and all brands need failures.
 
PhireSide said:
2026 reboot.

Looking at getting a machine as the toddler means more dishes than I can currently cope with. There is the matter of finding a space for it but I will consult a carpenter and plumber to modify the cupboards and install water and drain pipes for the inlet and outlets.

I'm looking to spend a modest amount (most certainly not the R15k+ that Miele wants) for an undercounter dishwasher in Appliance Grey, is Bosch/Hisense still the go-to nowadays? Currently leaning towards Hisense as my current Bosch oven has not been the best in terms of reliability - the touch panel sometimes has ghost touches and the part alone costs more than a whole new oven and hob set.
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Hisense is not bad at all. They have come a long way and seem to be the Lucky Goldstar (LG) of yesteryear.
 
Smiggles said:
You buy Bosch for the spare parts availability.
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I haven't gone too deep into it but I know many parts are shared nowadays between brands and that most of the difference is the facade and exterior chassis. So I'm not too sure how true that is anymore.

My Mom's 10-year old Bosch Silencio tumble dryer which I've seen in many homes has minimal parts availability and sits in her kitchen unused due to not being able to replace something or other after two independent technicians looked at it.

These days as the industry has changed I would rather get a twice as long warranty and pay less.

When I bought my Defy dishwasher (and Hisense washing machine and tumble dryer) 1.5 years ago, I found that they had better perceived build quality than Bosch.
 
PhireSide said:
2026 reboot.

Looking at getting a machine as the toddler means more dishes than I can currently cope with. There is the matter of finding a space for it but I will consult a carpenter and plumber to modify the cupboards and install water and drain pipes for the inlet and outlets.

I'm looking to spend a modest amount (most certainly not the R15k+ that Miele wants) for an undercounter dishwasher in Appliance Grey, is Bosch/Hisense still the go-to nowadays? Currently leaning towards Hisense as my current Bosch oven has not been the best in terms of reliability - the touch panel sometimes has ghost touches and the part alone costs more than a whole new oven and hob set.
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My Hisense shelves rusted after 12 months. I was told the warranty for shelves is 6 months.
I replaced it with Bosch series 4 ... zero complaints so far.
 
Still happy with my Bosch diswasher. Purchased in Nov 2024 delivered in Dec 24.

Thought it broke last week turn out to be the wall socket.
 
Bosch and Miele has the long lasting items. My one friend's parents had their Miele dishwasher now for over 40 years and its still working like a charm. They did replace the seals a while back.

But what they said was to rinse it before putting in the machine otherwise it will clog up the filters frequently.

We had our Bosch now for 15 years no complaints. The only thing to go with Bosch is to go up a little in the models. In the entry levels, the washing time can be long, but as you go up its washing time basically halves, and if you rinse your plates properly first before putting them into the machine they can wash for about 37 minutes. saving you water and electricity.

AEG however went down the drain as they are now built by Electrolux, or have been for a while.
 
Corelli said:
Bosch and Miele has the long lasting items. My one friend's parents had their Miele dishwasher now for over 40 years and its still working like a charm. They did replace the seals a while back.

But what they said was to rinse it before putting in the machine otherwise it will clog up the filters frequently.

We had our Bosch now for 15 years no complaints. The only thing to go with Bosch is to go up a little in the models. In the entry levels, the washing time can be long, but as you go up its washing time basically halves, and if you rinse your plates properly first before putting them into the machine they can wash for about 37 minutes. saving you water and electricity.

AEG however went down the drain as they are now built by Electrolux, or have been for a while.
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Pointless to do that just clean the filters when you have to.
 
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Corelli said:
AEG however went down the drain as they are now built by Electrolux, or have been for a while.
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My dad has an AEG hammer drill that has gone through about twenty sets of brushes, and the drill itself is about 28 or 30 years old at this stage.

They don't make them like they used to (tm)
 
Smiggles said:
Pointless to do that just clean the filters when you have to.
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lol no its not pointless. Food has to go somewhere. It goes into your filter and the smaller particles goes everywhere else in the machine. Unless you're cleaning the filter after every wash, you're making soup and "washing" your goods with water that is exposed to old food. Its detrimental to your machine and its disgusting.

Also there are certain types of food that won't wash off on a normal washing cycle if it is left to dry on the plates.

Our family has a workshop that repairs home appliances. You won't believe the kak we have seen.

If your filter gets clogged and your pump runs without water, try and guess how long it will last :D
 
Sopbeen said:
lol no its not pointless. Food has to go somewhere. It goes into your filter and the smaller particles goes everywhere else in the machine. Unless you're cleaning the filter after every wash, you're making soup and "washing" your goods with water that is exposed to old food. Its detrimental to your machine and its disgusting.

Also there are certain types of food that won't wash off on a normal washing cycle if it is left to dry on the plates.

Our family has a workshop that repairs home appliances. You won't believe the kak we have seen.

If your filter gets clogged and your pump runs without water, try and guess how long it will last :D
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It’s pointless. Let the machine do the one job it’s designed to do.
 
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