Have you lost your job to AI?

Have you lost your job to AI?

  • Yes, and I've been struggling to find work since

    Votes: 5 7.5%

  • Yes, and I've landed a new job already

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, but I'm expecting it

    Votes: 19 28.4%

  • No, and I'm pretty confident my job is safe

    Votes: 43 64.2%
  • Total voters
    67
EmmanuelGoldstein said:
The psychiatrist tells me that human cognitive processes, and sentience would not in the short and medium term be artificially generated.
Click to expand...
IMO it will only really "compete" properly if you can upload a consciousness. Like LLMs won't have experiential knowledge that links one triggering phrase to an anecdote related to an experience from years ago. I often branch off into sub stories and related plots when telling stories... opening up multi-threaded pathways of dumbassery, before bringing it back to the main story... when the train of thought doesn't entirely derail. lol

Kosmik said:
My concern for the industry, is that we are not slowing down but CUTTING off junior ingestion and mentoring. Its effective now because many have come up and had to train a critical thinking muscle that I say is lacking in the younger generations and with AI is being reduced even further. THAT is a big worry of mine, as a person in the industry and parent.
Click to expand...
Fully agree... we SHOULD be taking the extra capacity to help people. Unfortunately a lot of large corpos rather try squeeze for more profits.
 
Kosmik said:
Development is a very slippery slope. Manually typing code , scaffolding and a lot of what I call grunt work is gone, Agents handle all that easily. Overall architecture, direction and validation of logic, those are still massive holes.

I can comfortably run multiple agents working on whatever and then review and work with them from a logic perspective and keep an eye on conformance etc but I also have folks who are trying to have AI do that as well as it still a serious problem. It goes down tangents, over complexifies, ignores already walked and prepared structures to implement something new and often just misses the point. I can't say its just the models simply because I use the same. The difference is people leaning on years of experience in validating or vetting it and often their frustration in "why doesn't it just work or do that", which is a very common refrain from most devs. Development, is a hugely frustrating job and a lot of trial and error as well as moving goal posts. A laymen expecting it to work perfectly is deluding themselves, unknowingly because they are also ego pumped by the models.

Any way, from a development point of view, AI should make you extremely more efficient so yes, I would expect companies with large cohorts of developers to start downsizing. My concern for the industry, is that we are not slowing down but CUTTING off junior ingestion and mentoring. Its effective now because many have come up and had to train a critical thinking muscle that I say is lacking in the younger generations and with AI is being reduced even further. THAT is a big worry of mine, as a person in the industry and parent.
Click to expand...
I have a very good response for you as follows:

Where I work, management have been given a lot of Kool-Aid, they honestly believe the following things (I am not lying I have nothing to gain from telling any untruth here)
* They believe we're all lazy and slacking off
* They believe AI will make us dev 1/3 of the time
* They seem to have a HUGE PROBLEM with the speed of development, in particular, this has filtered down to how fast I develop things. This has been a big problem since I joined this miserable company. And there's nothing I can do about just finding another job (I will explain that later at length as that it's a whole TL;DR in itself). No company until I joined this one has ever complained about my development pace- I got here and immediately wondered to myself what I got myself into, this is a sweatshop, as bad as DERIVCO and some others.

Development isn't as hugely frustrating as it is actually challenging. My biggest headwind lately is that out of the box thinking, creativity or traveling the path less traveled based on experience is now becoming a FORBIDDEN path. If you don't code according to their fancy pattern they were taught in university, then you're already on the naughty list. When you work with hardware, and things in the physical world that have random, unpredictable behaviours then unfortunately all the fancy patterns and shiny fluff isn't going to cut it.

But no, they seem to think that me doing things properly, putting the time and effort into testing properly manually (because, remember, hardware and human interfacing) is me slacking off.

AI is a very good help in many things, but that which I am now expected to do with it, is making me very uncomfortable.
 
EmmanuelGoldstein said:
I have a very good response for you as follows:

Where I work, management have been given a lot of Kool-Aid, they honestly believe the following things (I am not lying I have nothing to gain from telling any untruth here)
* They believe we're all lazy and slacking off
* They believe AI will make us dev 1/3 of the time
* They seem to have a HUGE PROBLEM with the speed of development, in particular, this has filtered down to how fast I develop things. This has been a big problem since I joined this miserable company. And there's nothing I can do about just finding another job (I will explain that later at length as that it's a whole TL;DR in itself). No company until I joined this one has ever complained about my development pace- I got here and immediately wondered to myself what I got myself into, this is a sweatshop, as bad as DERIVCO and some others.

Development isn't as hugely frustrating as it is actually challenging. My biggest headwind lately is that out of the box thinking, creativity or traveling the path less traveled based on experience is now becoming a FORBIDDEN path. If you don't code according to their fancy pattern they were taught in university, then you're already on the naughty list. When you work with hardware, and things in the physical world that have random, unpredictable behaviours then unfortunately all the fancy patterns and shiny fluff isn't going to cut it.

But no, they seem to think that me doing things properly, putting the time and effort into testing properly manually (because, remember, hardware and human interfacing) is me slacking off.

AI is a very good help in many things, but that which I am now expected to do with it, is making me very uncomfortable.
Click to expand...
Your story is not uncommon, many are going through it and sadly the lesson learnt cost large sums of money and you can't hold AI responsible.
 
Archvile said:
everyone started submitting pull requests for code changes - our business analysts and even the CEO got in on the action
Click to expand...
only a matter of time before that ticking time bomb explodes :ROFL:

thankfully at my job the company leaned heavily into AI, burnt some fingers and learned valuable lessons of what the true capabilities and limitations are ... sober heads prevailed

did you have to sign some sort of nondisclosure as part of the retrenchment deal or can you name & shame this place?
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
only a matter of time before that ticking time bomb explodes :ROFL:

thankfully at my job the company leaned heavily into AI, burnt some fingers and learned valuable lessons of what the true capabilities and limitations are ... sober heads prevailed

did you have to sign some sort of nondisclosure as part of the retrenchment deal or can you name & shame this place?
Click to expand...
There are no sober heads in this company, so I am waiting until my number is up with the retrenchment.
 
No, but I did need to learn how to use AI and incorporate AI and AI tooling in what I do.
 
Bitching about the world advancing while living with all the benefits of previous advancements must surely have a name :unsure:
 
ShaunSA said:
Bitching about the world advancing while living with all the benefits of previous advancements must surely have a name :unsure:
Click to expand...
When it comes down to it, it's either you hit luck with AI and your job is not affected, or you're like me, where I don't think I will have a job soon, and then I am going to have to live on the street before long.
 
EmmanuelGoldstein said:
When it comes down to it, it's either you hit luck with AI and your job is not affected, or you're like me, where I don't think I will have a job soon, and then I am going to have to live on the street before long.
Click to expand...

There is no such thing as luck. There is such a thing as change. Change, death, and taxes
 
EmmanuelGoldstein said:
I have a very good response for you as follows:

Where I work, management have been given a lot of Kool-Aid, they honestly believe the following things (I am not lying I have nothing to gain from telling any untruth here)
* They believe we're all lazy and slacking off
* They believe AI will make us dev 1/3 of the time
* They seem to have a HUGE PROBLEM with the speed of development, in particular, this has filtered down to how fast I develop things. This has been a big problem since I joined this miserable company. And there's nothing I can do about just finding another job (I will explain that later at length as that it's a whole TL;DR in itself). No company until I joined this one has ever complained about my development pace- I got here and immediately wondered to myself what I got myself into, this is a sweatshop, as bad as DERIVCO and some others.

Development isn't as hugely frustrating as it is actually challenging. My biggest headwind lately is that out of the box thinking, creativity or traveling the path less traveled based on experience is now becoming a FORBIDDEN path. If you don't code according to their fancy pattern they were taught in university, then you're already on the naughty list. When you work with hardware, and things in the physical world that have random, unpredictable behaviours then unfortunately all the fancy patterns and shiny fluff isn't going to cut it.

But no, they seem to think that me doing things properly, putting the time and effort into testing properly manually (because, remember, hardware and human interfacing) is me slacking off.

AI is a very good help in many things, but that which I am now expected to do with it, is making me very uncomfortable.
Click to expand...
I saw a slide on AI presented at a town hall today. It said something along the lines of
Risks associated with AI:
Technical risks - 20%
Risks of not implementing - 80%

(in small letters - "as determined by exco")...
 
Sinbad said:
I saw a slide on AI presented at a town hall today. It said something along the lines of
Risks associated with AI:
Technical risks - 20%
Risks of not implementing - 80%

(in small letters - "as determined by exco")...
Click to expand...

Sounds about right..

Someone on the exco was chatting to his mate from Mauritius who runs an AI venture capital setup and bought into the Kool Aid.

I see the Kool Aid being drunk at companies where AI currently would have minimal actual impact and they're trying to shoe horn it into everything and anything they can, with the obvious disastrous results surfacing
 
ShaunSA said:
Have you seen the size of some of those combine harvesters? They'd kill several me's in an instant :eek:
Click to expand...

Probably at least 10, standing in a row...

But they wouldn't go "Oh, you're right, I missed that!" while killing you would they?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X