'Like a missile coming down' - Nine killed in fiery Florida jet crash

sefeddt said:
Some real nutters like Tim Heaton on social media

https://twitter.com/x/status/2117196161069273236
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What an absolute plank. She managed to communicate until impact. I've been in a terrifying situation (proper terrifying, thinking that's the end of the road) and the best I could get out was something I can only describe as a loud sigh.

NarrowBandFtw said:
yes, and? does not change the fact that many professional pilots do NOT panic
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And some do. Not everyone is the same.

 
Comments & opinion from a Learjet pilot...

Crash of N722BD, Thoughts from a LearJet Pilot - VettePilot​

Here are my initial thoughts on the unfortunate loss of life in the crash of the Learjet 60 N722BD. Having flown a LearJet 45 for thousands of hours, I give my thoughts on some possibilities of what could've caused this tragic accident.
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Looks like there was another 'severe weather incident' in the Miami airspace again...

Jetblue Emergency for SEVERE WEATHER | "Not from here, ma'am" - VASAviation​

EXTENDED 10-MINUTE VERSION:-FLL Departure (L) which includes all raw audio and radar for the FLL DEPARTURE sector of the Miami TRACON. This sector handles northbound departures off FLL and nearby airports.
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Learjet Crash Update: Pilot's Father SPEAKS & More! - Taking Off​

At the NTSB's second on-scene briefing on November 3, 2026, investigators said most of Learjet 60 N722BD's left elevator was found in three pieces between 1.3 and 3.8 miles from the Greenacres impact site, a distance they called implausible for impact damage.

Dan answers the questions viewers asked most about icing, Mach tuck and weather radar lag, and keeps the open question the NTSB left: whether losing that elevator caused the descent, or the descent tore it off.
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Another video, showing excavations of the crater, debris being picked up, and remnants of an engine. Also discussion of the weather, and radar beam scan and tilt to detect growing storms:
 
There has been a lot of discussion about the aircraft being subject to icing. Under these conditions the ice builds up more rapidly on the tail than the wing. Normally this is not a big problem since the tail is not working very hard, but any pitch maneuver that places load on the tail can lead to a sudden loss of control.

Here are some NASA tests on this for a similar size (turboprop) aircraft also with manual controls.

 
garyc said:
There has been a lot of discussion about the aircraft being subject to icing. Under these conditions the ice builds up more rapidly on the tail than the wing. Normally this is not a big problem since the tail is not working very hard, but any pitch maneuver that places load on the tail can lead to a sudden loss of control.

Here are some NASA tests on this for a similar size (turboprop) aircraft also with manual controls.

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That video was posted just earlier in this page. It refers to turboprops, which are very different from jet aircraft, both in terms of the altitude that they fly at, and the amount of engine bleed air available for deicing (instead of inflatable rubber boots). See:
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This video suggests that may not have been icing, but turbulence. Both are possible:
 
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