The Rugby Thread - Part Deux

Fukk man.
Forwards had a good game but backline was kak besides De Allende.
You could tell at the end if the scrum didn't go our way we had no clue what to do.
Willemse had an unbelievably kak game. Wtf.
 
I’m not blaming Libbok. We had complete dominance in the last 30 but couldn’t make it count because that backline can’t catch a cold. Tony Brown might as well ****off to NZ because whatever he is doing during the week is not showing in the game.
 
cavedog said:
France was good. They played well and defended pretty well. We struggled. We were only in the game because of our physicality. It sucks because I felt if we got more reward for the one thing we did good we could have won but that is also not fair to bargain on the ref awarding you. You have to make it clear an undeniable and we had to have better discipline.
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I Smell something…… is it defeat or reality or vrot skoene
 
Mike7 said:
I’m not blaming Libbok. We had complete dominance in the last 30 but couldn’t make it count because that backline can’t catch a cold. Tony Brown might as well ****off to NZ because whatever he is doing during the week is not showing in the game.
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Why not school boy error and sasha as well for missing that line kick....
 
No doubting Sasha's talent, but I've noticed of late it's going to his head...trust his ego is contained.
He's not the only no. 10 we have of quality.
No one is ever irreplaceable.
 
cavedog said:
We weren't particularly good but we had a dominant scrum so it's a real pity Piardi didn't give us what we desered. He did award most but practiced restraint in the end there.

Damn sucks but it is what it is.
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We got scrum penalties all the time, then we chose to scrum again and couldn't convert that into points. That's on us.

Sasha is over rated. The looping run he does and his speed doesn't trick high level teams. He has no variation. Can't just get the backline going in a normal fashion.

It worked because it is the exact tactic that is coached out of kids at primary school level. So other players got caught off guard thinking wtf is this guy doing. But now he is know for it.
 
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rietrot said:
We got scrum penalties all the time, then we chose to scrum again and couldn't convert that into points. That's on us.

Sasha is over rated. The looping run he does and his speed doesn't trick high level teams. He has no variation. Can't just get the backline going in a normal fashion.

It worked because it is the exact tactic that is coached out of kids at primary school level. So other players got caught off guard thinking wtf is this guy doing. But now he is know for it.
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Agree. Rugby is like those Air crash investigations. it's a series of events that has led to what happened. Our backline was very stale. There wasn't any other plan except for running a loop around and the French defense was up for it. In fact as times looked very much off-side.

Anyways we wake up today and reflect and it it's not the end of the world. We might not get a chance to win it but there will be other chances.

Surely now it's the All Blacks championship to lose.
 
Piardi is a terrible ref, they tried to ban him from reffing in Australia in September and this was another sub par performance. Also tmo taking like 5 mins to make a decision on everything was irritating then coming out with baffling calls like the not deliberate knock on by the French, which should be a deliberate knock on, yellow card and then discuss if it should be a penalty try.

That being said when you know the ref is kak going into the game you have to be on point and we weren't.

Difficult watch but well done France.
 
Massively disappointed in the Bok performance last night/this morning.

First, let's give credit to France. They played very well & deserved to win. They started fast and had us back pedaling in the first 20 or so minutes. Their defense was top class, especially their scramble defense.

Ok, now the Bok performance. I'm not going to blame the ref, this was our own (un)doing.
- Discipline - yet again our bugbear. 2 yellows and a red. Breaks momentum and puts you on the backfoot.
- Handling - Knock-ons in vital situations. Willemse especially guilty of this.
- Wild passing - Giving hospital passes to the next player, passing behind the backline or even worse, passing to the opposing player.
- Lost the aerial battle where we usually do very well in as last week against Italy,
- Silly mistakes in vital situations - Blown up for no brake foot at the scrum when we were in their 22, offside play that caused the Arendse try to be cancelled, Willemse & Sasha kicking the ball out on the full.
- Below par performances from usually top players like Krappies, Sasha & Willemse.
- Falling behind on the scoreboard - at 14-0 & 21-7 we were always chasing the game. This forces you to abandon your game plan. Also forces you to make silly mistakes.
- Not clinical enough - squandering point scoring opportunities in vital red zones.

We rely too much on our forwards to give us momentum in a game. They were good. Our scrums and lineouts were great but as soon as the ball went to our backs the problems started. You can't be so one dimensional in your play.

The championship is now gone as I don't see NZ losing their 2 games.
All we can do now is to focus on Ireland.
 
That was a difficult match to watch.

Congratulations to France.

Once again, the foundational principles of the sport hold true: execute your initial tackles, restrict the opposition's time and space, and force errors.

It was a very impressive victory for a relatively inexperienced French 23-man squad, with Attissogbe and Grandidier-Nkanang performing superbly under the high ball.

From my perspective, the aerial contestables were where the match was ultimately won and lost.

Once it became evident that we were not winning the aerial contestables, our hand was forced, compelling us to keep the ball in hand and grind out meters through a catch-pass-run approach—an area where we are not particularly comfortable or adept.

Our inability to string together multi-phase plays against a resolute and cohesive defensive line rendered our attack somewhat muted and impotent, characterized by dropped passes, passes delivered behind runners, and receptions taken from a standing start.

Some might argue that we overplayed. We did not. Rather, we lacked offensive composure and accuracy with ball in hand, and fundamental handling errors ultimately let us down.
 
cavedog said:
Agree. Rugby is like those Air crash investigations. it's a series of events that has led to what happened. Our backline was very stale. There wasn't any other plan except for running a loop around and the French defense was up for it. In fact as times looked very much off-side.

Anyways we wake up today and reflect and it it's not the end of the world. We might not get a chance to win it but there will be other chances.

Surely now it's the All Blacks championship to lose.
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Yeah the nations championship is a nice to have not a must have, lets experiment and blood players now rather than having inexperience when it matters the most, statistically at some point or another one has to lose a game(s), I rather have that happen now.

Overall I liked this game it wasn't as one sided like with Italy, rassie now has a very good idea how his players perform under pressure.

it was good game win or lose it was entertaining...so can't complain.....
 
Mike7 said:
I’m not blaming Libbok. We had complete dominance in the last 30 but couldn’t make it count because that backline can’t catch a cold. Tony Brown might as well ****off to NZ because whatever he is doing during the week is not showing in the game.
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I've said on other platforms, Rassie must get Stephen Larkham. His talent is completely wasted where he is now.
 
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