10 GB Local Cap Limit

http://www.telkom.co.za/pls/portal/docs/page/adsl/aterms.jsp

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">2. Telkom reserves the right to amend the standard conditions from time to time. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
 
this actually makes sense as VANS could use an ADSL line to create a link from Cape Town to JoBurg for quite a few simultanious VoIP connections and pay a fraction of the price that it would cost them to implement it themselves.
 
This really blows. It means they have the right not to honour their own contract with their customer, without doing anything illegal.

No consumer protection whatsoever.

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koffiejunkie
 
So because of Telkom's utter inefficiency and lack of foresight we have to be subjected to even more restrictions..? And they are aiming for 300,000 ADSL users! What about their 'local is lekker' phrase they threw around, not so lekker anymore cos they can't rip people off enough. Local bandwidth is FREE the network has been paid for by our grandparents, the newer equipment has been paid for - that's why they clocking almost 5 billion profit. But they want 10 billion now so more restrictions will come into effect. I get happier every day that I don't use Telkom, they really are wasted potential.


<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za</font id="size1"></font id="navy">
 
In no defense of Telkom, I think since the anouncement of VOIP, Telkom shares and MTN fell almost 6%, now that has to wake some ppl up, so I think there will be some very competitive pricing comming out, on top of that there Sentech who seem to be improving, Iburst, and every tome dick and ahrry starting to join the mesh network.

<font size="2"><div align="right"><b><font color="black">Using</font id="black"> <font color="red">Sentech</font id="red"> <font color="black">and</font id="black"> <font color="blue">Uncapped ADSL
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">if I were Telkom I'd be implementing products/policies to attract customers instead of p!ssing them off and alienating them... makes no sense <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Makes perfect sense m8, its not a competitive market as they are the only entity supplying the service, no competition, yet.
If I were them I would be doing the same thing, raise the bar as high as you can now, implement all sorts of restrictions now, that way when SNO or others get invloved you have a cushion and can always go back. Remember that the SNO will also want to make as much money as possible. It all depends on what the starting point is of the service that is offered. Telkom are effectively preparing for a war, on their turf, and adjusting the market to suite their needs. So i think adsl users will get LESS in the short term, but hopefully more in the longer term after the SNO and Telkom have been at each others throats for a year or 2.
 
Yes,

Thats why we have released a new solution which uses a server on the client side and picks up accounts when the local is used up so 3 accounts would give you 30gb of local traffic ? and 9gb of International.

<b>I used the Internet once but then my sitffy drive broke.</b>
 
My attitude in light of the DoC announcements is Telkom should go ahead with it! The stupid bastards won't know what hit them when Transtel and Esitel start reselling backbone access to all and sundry [:6]

<font color="blue">Telkom needs a leash, ICASA needs some guts, and the </font id="blue"><font color="red">SA consumer</font id="red"><font color="blue"> needs to make it happen</font id="blue">
 
Agreed, I cannot wait until I have a choice of which provider I can choose to buy bandwidth from, but I have sat in this chair and watched these promises for 4 years now. I have to make do with what I have now !

<b>I used the Internet once but then my sitffy drive broke.</b>
 
Well telkom just finished digging their grave by doing that. I have 2 acc's (thank goodness) so it will mainly mean that I will have to cut down my dowloads seriously. But...

On a positive look on thinks I dont think telkom knows exactly how much damage they are causing themselves for anyone who can move onto sentech or iburst or another uncapped service will. I see them losing the majority of their residential customers. Therefore maybe (just maybe) they 10gig cap wont last after being hit hard. But knowing how stubborn telkom is it probably wont happen, we can only hope once they see customer applications decreasing and customers leaving that they realise the errors of their ways.
 
I doubt they will implement a 10GB local cap. If they do, everyone will jump ship.. I've done that already because I think they are close-minded and a pure rip-off. Anyone in their right mind will never implement a local cap - what message is that bringing across to SA, that we don't deserve to browse the local sites and check our mail without paying through our necks for something which Telkom can provide for free? We forget that we pay their salaries, the sunlight liquid in their kitchen -we paid for it. The toilet paper in their bathroom - we paid for said toilet paper and house in which the bathroom is. Their cars - our money. Right down to the shoes they wear - WE paid for it. And we paid for the Telkom network as well, many times over. It's time we reclaim what is our - our parents and grandparents have been paying phone bills for decades - Telkom is South Africa's telecommunicationscompany (embarassingly enough), not some rich bigwigs and corporate vulture's cash cow.

<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za</font id="size1"></font id="navy">
 
Thats cause we all have to pitch in to pay for $izwe's underpants as he loves them panties and bra's we can see the pink shining through on TV $izwe but we still lovvvvveeeeeee you, moron.

Fantasy is what people want, reality is what they need.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by andres101</i>
<br />this actually makes sense as VANS could use an ADSL line to create a link from Cape Town to JoBurg for quite a few simultanious VoIP connections and pay a fraction of the price that it would cost them to implement it themselves.
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This is very a good point, there are so many ways to still make use of an ADSL connection with only local access. VPN's, VOIP, local P2P, local gaming, local access for Wireless networks etc...

I've actually been expecting this announcement from Telkom for quite some time. February 2005 cannot come fast enough!
 
And instead of helping the local community grow telkum must destroy this too so hey can make more money and in turn buy more undies for $izwe


Fantasy is what people want, reality is what they need.
 
Surely there must be something we can do to prevent this.

Currently they are selling their 384 package and alot more people will jump onto ADSL because it is more affordable, but on their website they are stating :

"To provide all ADSL customers with a reasonable service a 3 Gigabyte limit on the shaped Internet service and 4 Gigabyte limit on the unshaped service is imposed as to ensure that power users do not abuse the international bandwidth and to equally distribute the limited bandwidth amongst all ADSL access end users.

Once a customer exceeds the 3 Gigabyte volume limit for the month his international traffic will be transported over a slower international link without affecting his local access. He will experience slower access speeds on the alternate international link, as he will then be sharing this link with all other customers who exceed the 3 Giga byte cap."

Now all the new customers will be in for a suprize when they flip this defcon 5 switch. This change seems to be a desperate measure to keep their profits high after the DoC announcement.
 
I'm pretty sure that telkom have no issues with profit at the moment. Aside from maybe making too much. The biggest issue is that telkom operates like a business (maximizing profits) and yet has the benifits of a parastatal (monopoly). I really don't care which they choose but make it one or the other, this business of raking in the profits while being able to regulate their own industry is really quite ridiculous already.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Spamtheman</i>
<br />I'm pretty sure that telkom have no issues with profit at the moment. Aside from maybe making too much. The biggest issue is that telkom operates like a business (maximizing profits) and yet has the benifits of a parastatal (monopoly). I really don't care which they choose but make it one or the other, this business of raking in the profits while being able to regulate their own industry is really quite ridiculous already.
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Wait for Dr Ivy's further announcements in October. Methinx this will level the playing fields drastically, if not change them entirely, given the whispers in the corridors of power...
 
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