100 invade Limpopo farm

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http://www.news24.com/Content/South...8e98/09-10-2009-07-40/100_invade_Limpopo_farm

Tzaneen - A Limpopo farmer had to lock himself and his wife in their farmhouse on Wednesday night, after a group of about 100 people invaded their farm in Trichardtsdal, near Tzaneen in Limpopo, claiming to be the legal owners.
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When Kgabo approached them to investigate, the group - who introduced themselves as the Banareng-ba-Mantjana community - informed him that they were claiming the land because they believe themselves to be the lawful owners.

Land sold in 2005

"The farm had already been sold to the state back in 2005, based on a willing buyer/willing seller agreement."
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:eek::eek: Crazy!!
 
If its sold, who owns the deeds, the government or the farmer?
 
"The farm had already been sold to the state back in 2005, based on a willing buyer/willing seller agreement."

However, the government has thus far only paid R2m, which is about half of the agreed-upon selling price.

At the time, an agreement was reached whereby Kgabo could stay on the farm and continue farming until he received the rest of the money.
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Not sure but the government still owes him money. So I guess him, until they pay him in full? Or he was shafted by the government.:(
 
The army must be sent in and an example be made of them pretty quickly. If they let this slide it will start something we could have avoided.
 
marine1 said:
And so it begins...
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""They came to the farm but refused to do anything because the land-grabbers said they wouldn't cause any damage to the property."

"By the afternoon, the police showed up at the farm again and removed the trespassers, after the land claims commissioner in Polokwane had requested their assistance."

Have you ever thought of doing Annie musicals?

Its a hard life life.. oh life.. its a hard life life.. oh life!
 
Probably the latter, given what a debacle all these other land distribution cases have been.
 
Pitbull said:
The army must be sent in and an example be made of them pretty quickly. If they let this slide it will start something we could have avoided.
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Eish dude, have you seen our army? They will call dibs and setup shop there themselves.
 
davemc said:
All I see is: The police failed to protect and serve.

And yet we are expected to pay taxes.
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You must have your blinkers on.

By the afternoon, the police showed up at the farm again and removed the trespassers, after the land claims commissioner in Polokwane had requested their assistance.

Kgabo says an agreement was reached to hold a meeting on Saturday in order to clear up the confusion. It will be attended by the land claims commissioner, Kgabo, the police and the community.
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@Fudzy:
You must have your blinkers on.

In sequence:
1. The citizen phones the police and requests their help to remove the trespassers. The police arrive, speak to the trespassers and decline to remove the trespassers.
2. The land claims commissioner requests the help of the police, and suddenly the police are able to remove the trespassers.

i.e. Failed to protect and serve.
 
Seems like an administration screw up to me.

But what's even bigger a screw up is that the farmer is there and working. Why doesn't the department start integrating the community with the farmer, he can show them how to manage it properly etc. If they all work the farm together and he makes more than predicted due to greater staff and help, the extra can go into paying for the farm from the communities side.

Surely someone can see this?
 
davemc said:
@Fudzy:
You must have your blinkers on.

In sequence:
1. The citizen phones the police and requests their help to remove the trespassers. The police arrive, speak to the trespassers and decline to remove the trespassers.
2. The land claims commissioner requests the help of the police, and suddenly the police are able to remove the trespassers.

i.e. Failed to protect and serve.
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End result was they were removed, right?

I think the situation was handled as well as it could've been. Had they come in with rubber bullets and tear gas the first time round it would've just aggrevated the situation. At the end of the day the trespassers were removed but I doubt this will be the end of the story. I wonder who told them they could move into the farm? I could imagine some eager-beaver councilman getting word that the government 'owned' the farm and then he in turn, misinformed this community.
 
Kosmik said:
Seems like an administration screw up to me.

But what's even bigger a screw up is that the farmer is there and working. Why doesn't the department start integrating the community with the farmer, he can show them how to manage it properly etc. If they all work the farm together and he makes more than predicted due to greater staff and help, the extra can go into paying for the farm from the communities side.

Surely someone can see this?
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Agreed, there needs to be proper hand-over.
 
Kosmik said:
Seems like an administration screw up to me.

But what's even bigger a screw up is that the farmer is there and working. Why doesn't the department start integrating the community with the farmer, he can show them how to manage it properly etc. If they all work the farm together and he makes more than predicted due to greater staff and help, the extra can go into paying for the farm from the communities side.

Surely someone can see this?
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This is what is stupid about the Land claims and selling/buying of these lands.

Depending on what he farms his farm would be no less than 100 hectares. Instead of giving it all to people who won't farm on it anyway, give them 20 hectares and let them do their own thing. 20 hectares is pretty big and more than enough for a at least 50 people.

20 hectares = 20 000 m2/50 = 400m2 per person. Or they can build one big communtiy housing and farm on the rest.
 
w1z4rd said:
""They came to the farm but refused to do anything because the land-grabbers said they wouldn't cause any damage to the property."

"By the afternoon, the police showed up at the farm again and removed the trespassers, after the land claims commissioner in Polokwane had requested their assistance."

Have you ever thought of doing Annie musicals?

Its a hard life life.. oh life.. its a hard life life.. oh life!
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+1
 
@Fudzy : You're trying to make be believe that the Police acted in the occupants best interests by leaving 100 people on the property to drink it up and party uninvited. They did not even bother to remove the occupant out of harms way.

i.e. Their inaction put the occupant's life at risk.
i.e. They failed to protect and serve, the only thing that they are paid to do with our tax money.
i.e. We're paying them to not do their jobs.

How on earth can you justify that with a: The end result was ok ?
 
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