2010: No economic bonanza

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Prepare to be disappointed, South Africans. One of the world's leading sports economists says you're not going to get rich hosting next year's World Cup.

There'll be no economic bonanza, according to a new book, and if experience matches the last World Cup in Germany, spending by visitors will be much less than the South African government shelled out preparing for the tournament.

"The next World Cup will not be an airplane dropping dollars on South Africa," authors Stefan Szymanski and Simon Kuper write in the book "Soccernomics."

The caveat comes just ahead of Friday's World Cup draw in South Africa, six months before football's showpiece tournament.

Using data analysis, history and psychology, the book punctures dozens of assumptions about what it takes to win, and who makes money in football - and in sports in general.

"The problem for South Africa is that they have to spend quite a lot to build stadiums," Szymanski said in a telephone interview from London. "Germany could afford this, and it had stadiums anyway. But South Africa is a nation that can ill afford to fritter away a few billion on white elephants."

Following the 2002 World Cup, for instance, South Korea's K-League had difficulties filling the 10 new stadiums built for the tournament at a cost of more than $2bn.

The book's argument is that hosting a World Cup or Olympics is an inefficient way to revitalise a city, or enrich a nation - especially one like South Africa, where a third of the population lives on under $2 a day. It can boost a nation's morale or image, but not much else.

"If you want to regenerate a poor neighbourhood, regenerate it," Szymanski and Kuper write. "If you want an Olympic pool and a warm-up track, build them. You could build pools and tracks all across London, and it would still be cheaper than hosting the Olympics."

More at the link.

It seems that the WC is not going to do much for the economy after all (not long term in any case).
 
Finally we hear from somone who understands basic economics, little things like FIFA takes all the income and SA taxpayers take all the expenses.

It's a pity that those in charge don't understand, but as they are going to get their piggy trough pensions, bonuses and kickbacks, one wouldn't expect them to.
 
As far as I know in a 1km around the stadium all products sold are tax free, essentially a tax free zone or bubble is created (Mandatory by Fifa otherwise no World Cup).

The thing is only Fifa partners are allowed to operate in the damn bubble.
 
As far as I know in a 1km around the stadium all products sold are tax free, essentially a tax free zone or bubble is created (Mandatory by Fifa otherwise no World Cup).

The thing is only Fifa partners are allowed to operate in the damn bubble.

If it is the same kind of "tax free" as airports, they can stop it right now.
 
"But South Africa is a nation that can ill afford to fritter away a few billion on white elephants."

Haleluya!

Someone who is not retarded. The money could and should have been better invested. Perhaps we would be better prepared to host the world cup in 20 years after more pressing issues like HIV/crime/education had received greater attention. Hospitals are used every day - stadiums aren't.
 
So we wasted money on white elephant stadia...tough sh$t, but the rest is well worth it...:D
South Korea built 9 of their 10 world cup stadiums. We've only built 5 of that as the other half already existed and required minor renovations


I bet Germany did not need to upgrade ageing roads and non existing public transport systems as they already had world class autobahns, airports etc.
Seeing that they already had world class stadia, where the f#ck did they spend their money on?
 
So we wasted money on white elephant stadia...tough sh$t, but the rest is well worth it...:D
South Korea built 9 of their 10 world cup stadiums. We've only built 5 of that as the other half already existed and required minor renovations

So imagine how we could have improved infrastructure if we didn't have to build and upgrade 10 stadias ;)
 
who said it would be an economic bonanza? its not going to determine our economic growth? its about marketing, perception, investment climates, confidence, infrastructure (both 2010 and beyond)...
 
who said it would be an economic bonanza? its not going to determine our economic growth? its about marketing, perception, investment climates, confidence, infrastructure (both 2010 and beyond)...

Exactly, jeez some people are just doff :D

They want us to upgrade other things and not host a world cup, pffffft what is this world coming to.
 
Probably find that all 9 of theirs cost less than one of ours ;)

I'm not sure of the cost comparison but looking at their stadia, it's sheer state of the art and that doesn't come cheap.

On the hindsight I think we should have demolished and rebuilt Loftus Stadium as well:D
The lights went out for the second game in a row last night :(
Lights went out last Wednesday as well
I'm worried about that Loftus will embarrass us in front of the whole world unless something is done to fix the problems. :o
 
About time someone spoke the truth. We are going to be so screwed with debt afterwards.

Who exactly? Yes government has a deficit..but there is NO debt on the stadia..the money used e.g.to upgrade road interchanges are not debt funded.

This is not a Montreal where the city had to take out a loan to pay for the stadium and pay it back many decades later.

In fact the only "debt" is a R600m advance the City provided the stadium, half of which has already been recovered through revenues from ticket sales income.

Only debt funded projects have debt. Why is this so difficult to understand?
 
The cost of our stadia are exceptionally reasonable.

Where on earth can you build Mbombela and Peter Mokaba Stadium, both meeting every FIFA requirements for just over R1 billion each...?

Even in those cases, the minimum FIFA requirements have been exceeded in some cases.

If they can use the venue for community and local events it will be well worth it.
 
Who exactly? Yes government has a deficit..but there is NO debt on the stadia..the money used e.g.to upgrade road interchanges are not debt funded.

This is not a Montreal where the city had to take out a loan to pay for the stadium and pay it back many decades later.

In fact the only "debt" is a R600m advance the City provided the stadium, half of which has already been recovered through revenues from ticket sales income.

Only debt funded projects have debt. Why is this so difficult to understand?
I don't think anyone will hear you.
In here they only see what their eye filters (read prejudices) "allow" them to see.
 
I don't think anyone will hear you.
In here they only see what their eye filters (read prejudices) "allow" them to see.

I think the point of the article was that our country could have used the money more productively, i.e. building/upgrading hospitals, schools, etc rather than hosting the SWC.

Yes, the SWC might bring in more tourists, but uplifting people would have more lasting effect.

Who gets the income from the ticket sales? Surely we (SA), don't get 100% from every ticket sold?
 
The Gautrain is debt funded...
 
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Finally someone who speaks lots of sense and doesn't fall for FIFA's BS about it somehow uplifting the country. As I pointed out a few years ago, I recall Germany made an actual loss on the World Cup.

@Capetownguy: Many ANC (and even some DA members) have constantly told us that this will be absolutely great for the economy, job creation etc. Also as he points out R1 billion could build an awful lot of schools and hospitals for the poor. But hey, when there are contracts to be awarded to your 'friends', the poor come second best.
 
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