2011 Middle East War ?

Arthur said:
Bad! Bad! Bad! They're all bad, bad, bad!!
Your world is very simple, eh.

Mine is rather more complicated.
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It's convenient when the world is one shade of grey so one can then sit on the fence
 
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Carbon_Fibre said:
If Israel is so open and democratic, why does it oppress the Palestinians, over and above so called 'security' reasons. Why does it continue building settlements in the West Bank. If it wants the West Bank, why not annex it? When it finally does annex the West Bank, will it give equal rights to the residents of the West Bank or will they create an full Apartheid system?
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Oppress them? Bwahahah.
You clearly have not heard of the rocket fire constantly hitting civilians areas in Israel.
You speak of Apartheid.....again you spew this rubbish.
Either you have never been there and seen the reality of the situation or you were too young to have a clue what Apartheid was.

Carbon_Fibre said:
The corrupt Arab dictators you speak of are fully supported by the US. That support keeps them in power. Those corrupt dictators clamp down on any opposition, hence forcing most opposition towards religious groups which enjoy some sort of protection. It's within some of these religious groups, that extremist jihadi ideology is spread. Rather than trying to fight their own corrupt leaders, which they perceive as too hard, they think/thought that attacking the US using terrorist attacks will force the US to rethink it's support for the corrupt Arab Dictators. This is an obvious fail.
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yeah right, I dont see the US supporting the like of Syria and Iran, clearly you know more than we do.
Carbon_Fibre said:
US Foreign Policy is an epic FAIL too. Top US Military Leaders think so too, including that the US's biased support for Israel (thanks to AIPAC) hurts the US and endangers US Lives.
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proof please?
Carbon_Fibre said:
Basically, there are no good guys in this equation.

US Military - fighting a hard battle against terrorists
US Foreign Policy - Biased/Fail - yes they should not support the Arabs that want world domination
Corrupt Arab Dictators - Bad/Evil/Greedy - That is the first honest thing you have said
Israel - good and will win
Idiotic Militant Groups - Bad/Retarded - another honest thing you have said, well done
Opposition groups in Arab countries - Cowardly/Stupid - riiiight :rolleyes:
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Rubbish again.
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Basically, there are no good guys in this equation.

US Military - Falsely Led
US Foreign Policy - Biased/Fail
Corrupt Arab Dictators - Bad/Evil/Greedy
Israel - Bad/Evil
Idiotic Militant Groups - Bad/Retarded


Carbon_Fibre said:
Not true. Israel has a world class propaganda machine. Every time they do something wrong, the skilled liars like Mark Regev, Daniel Ayalon, etc go into overdrive on the world news networks spreading lies. The Palestinians can hardly speak proper english and don't understand how to resond to the rhetoric. However in recent times, the world has begun to see through Israel's lies. The pictures speak for themselves. Israel has isolated iteslf from the whole world including the Europeans. Now, in the quest for a few more settlements in the West Bank, they are risking their relationship with the US, the last remaining ally.
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You speak utter rubbish, everytime Israel opens her mouth, the world switches the channel. They dont want to hear the truth but would rather fund the "under dog".
At least Israel does not doctor video and does not lie to the world but again, the Arabs are the "under dog" :rolleyes:
 
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