700 Mbps DSL possible with SuperMIMO technology

Drop this European standard of the internet(DSL) and move on to Cable and straight fiber so we don't have to worry about the damn distance. Just copy the Americans's project(Comcast Cable) and we would all be happy.
 
VioAdmin said:
Drop this European standard of the internet(DSL) and move on to Cable and straight fiber so we don't have to worry about the damn distance. Just copy the Americans's project(Comcast Cable) and we would all be happy.
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The problem with cable is you need repeaters all over the place (coaxial is dated man), and like wireless, the bandwidth is shared/distributed among everyone, so QoS isnt as guarenteed as ADSL (of course, with Telkom, even ADSL doesnt guarentee you what you sync at, because the exchanges lack backhaul). "Cable" would also suffer from cable-theft problems in SA
I think the answer is fibre ! Viva FTTH =)
 
VioAdmin said:
Drop this European standard of the internet(DSL) and move on to Cable and straight fiber so we don't have to worry about the damn distance. Just copy the Americans's project(Comcast Cable) and we would all be happy.
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For Cable you'd need a rolled-out Cable TV infrastructure, which no-one was willing to do in SA. xDSL is simply a way for telecoms operators with copper lines to extend the lifetime of their equipment, and newer cable standards are exactly the same for Cable TV operators. If you're going to roll out a new fixed-line infrastructure you may as well do fibre right from the start, and can you can send any type of data over it.
 
telkom do faster fastest fast, 700Mb/s with 3 gig cap :)
 
A blog entry that pretty much mirrors my views ...

http://gigaom.com/2010/09/22/huawei-takes-copper-to-the-limit-with-700-mbps-dsl/

Like it or not, SA's (mass market) wireline broadband will be tied to the use and enhancement (FTTC) of existing copper in the ground for the forseeable future. Therefore this type of technology may be very relevant for us in the future. To my knowledge Telkom rarely pull single pairs into most premises (i.e. to allow for expansion, I know my line is a 4 pair).

FTTH would be the ideal, but we have to keep in mind commercial realities.

Verizon invested $19 billion to attract just under 4 million FiOS Internet subscribers. Even if you reduce the costs involved linearly (doesnt actually work that way) for a more reasonable local subscriber target, e.g. 1 million FTTH users, you're still looking at an investment of around R33 billion. There just isnt this kind of money floating around in a developing economy such as ours (with many other pressing socio-economic needs).
 
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Roman4604 said:
<snip> ... you're still looking at an investment of around R33 billion. There just isnt this kind of money floating around in a developing economy such as ours (with many other pressing socio-economic needs).
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Well, I am not so sure. Multichoice claims they have 2 million subscribers, which pulls in up to 14.4 billion Rand per annum (assuming everyone is on "premium"). Then consider that we have around 600k DSL subscribers, which is pulls in somewhere between 2 billion (all 384k users) to 3.9 billion (all 4 Mbps users).

I do not know what the best possible margins would be on these services. Telkom claims that voice lines cost them R300 per month to run --- so we know an efficient company can probably do it for less than half that ...

Anyhow, so by offering triple-play over fiber (make sure you throw in SuperSport on-demand), you can potentially pull in about 10 to 15 billion per year. With those kind of figures, it may be possible to recover your investment in 10-15 years ....

I just find the statement that "we are a developing country and we do not have R33 B available" a bit pessimistic, since it seems that people are already spending almost half of that annually on this type of service, and that is not even counting the wireless stuff.
 
fvdbergh said:
I just find the statement that "we are a developing country and we do not have R33 B available" a bit pessimistic, since it seems that people are already spending almost half of that annually on this type of service, and that is not even counting the wireless stuff.
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OK suppose I should have qualified ... for broadband. I would say access to TV (broadcast content) is a more relevant/wanted need for most of the population (rightly or wrongly so).

Also turnover is not equal to profit (ROI). To invest R33 billion, one would need to make that back within a reasonable timeframe at a competitive rate of return (vs. other investments). My personal feeling is without state (taxpayer) funding, this is just not viable in our market, but hey if someones up for it I'll be the first behind them.
 
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