fragtion_ said:
Greek telecomunications monopoly. Like Telkom, they charge ~R300 installation fee, ~R300 a month for 1024k (they dont have anything higher than that in Greece), and that excludes ISP costs which incorporate =>3GB caps.
Please give me evidence that we're "the only ADSL provider in the whole world for whom abusers "spoil it for everyone"?". If this was the case, then why would international ISPs cap their consumers at all? Of course there are abusers.
But you said it yourself, "Greek telecommunications
monopoly" - they can charge what the market will bear. You seem to be contradicting yourself; first you claimed that poor Telkom are "forced to" cap at 3GB and charge high prices because of all the abusers. Then you admitted that it's because they're a monopoly and can charge what they want. Which is it?
It doesn't make sense to compare ourselves to countries that have done it wrong, because the existence of other 'Telkoms' elsewhere does not and cannot negate the point that MANY other countries are able to offer services for a tenth of the price with 30GB up to unlimited caps.
If everyone knew about it, they'd all be abusing the network. That's South Africa unfortunately, and you know it's true.
Actually I think that is
completely wrong. Do you honestly believe that there is some "special", unique quality of South Africa culture (that is absent in S Korea, Japan, US, New Zealand, Australia, Europe etc.) that makes us more likely than all those countries to "abuse" broadband connections on a wide scale? I'm afraid you're going to have to give me far more convincing arguments to support this notion than "and you know it's true". What I
know is true is that 95% of potential users couldn't care less about sitting download gigs and gigs of data ... for every person I know who would abuse, I can easily name ten who wouldn't, e.g. people like my mom, dad, gran, sister, other sister, boss, most of my colleagues, most of my friends, most of my friends friends and family members, etc.. they actually have lives. And that type of user would be the vast majority IF it was cheaper. (Are you in school BTW?)
Even Telkom admitted that only 4% of users were ever heavy users. Now you could argue "but they had the cap". But take Sentech MyWireless, even in the beginning when they were TOTALLY uncapped and encouraged "unlimited usage", their percentage of abusers also remained at a maximum of 4% of the user base. (And that's early-adopter-types! And they're South African! 96% of them didn't "abuse"! There is
proof that you are wrong about South Africans.)
BTW, I'm on TelkomInternet, and I'm not abusing
my connection ... my total throughput for this month is about 600MB.
My point is that everywhere in the world where 30GB is the minimum expectation, ISPs make this work via economies of scale: Sign up a lot of users (by making it cheap), the vast majority use much
less than the 30GB, and a small minority use a lot. The light users subsidise the heavy users, and everyone pays a low flat rate. The business model works.
I do understand your reaction though to bragging about 80GB (a somewhat silly thing to do). But I don't agree that Telkom can honestly justify a 3GB cap because a tiny percentage of users do things like this. I agree that 30GB-40GB is a far more reasonable limit, and I think that Telkom could easily provide that and still make huge profits (but not without cutting into their diginet etc. cash cows).
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